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    Countries that will miss George Bush

    A lot has been written about George W Bush's unpopularity around the globe - but what about those places where the outgoing president was popular?

    By Kim Ghattas
    BBC News, Washington

    As he leaves office with a record high domestic disapproval rate - 73%, according to an October ABC News/Washington Post poll - President George W Bush can perhaps take some comfort from the fact that this feeling is not uniformly shared abroad.

    While the shoe-throwing incident in Iraq may come to symbolise the world's opinion of a president who is often referred to as the worst in America's history, some corners of the world will miss the 43rd president of the United States.

    He has approval ratings of around 80% in Africa, according to some polls, and in Kosovo a main street was named after him to thank him for supporting Kosovo's independence.

    "It is generally accepted in the US that Bush has generated hatred for America around the world," says Peter Berkowitz, a fellow at the conservative Hoover Institution.

    "But the picture is not black and white," he added.

    Israeli ties

    In the last days of his administration, Mr Bush again demonstrated his unwavering support for Israel as it pounded Gaza.

    Analysts in the US observed that Israel may have deliberately timed the military offensive so that it took place before Mr Bush's departure.

    Israel knew it could count on the current president to support its actions, but felt less certain about how an Obama administration would react.

    US ties with Israel have always been strong, but some believe the relationship was even stronger under Mr Bush and that - depending on how Mr Obama handles the Middle East - the outgoing president may be appreciated even more in Israel once he has left the White House.

    "Israel is probably the only place on earth where Bush can still get a standing ovation," says Mr Berkowitz, who was in Israel at the time of Mr Bush's visit in May for the 60th anniversary of Israel's creation, when he got several standing ovations.

    "Israel sensed correctly that he acutely understood the challenges they faced. But my view is also that he understood the suffering and challenges of the Palestinians. He was after all the first American president who called for the creation of a Palestinian state."

    It is unlikely, however, that many Palestinians will remember Mr Bush for that particular call - especially now that their final image of the Bush administration will be shaped by the latest Israeli attacks in Gaza.
    Bitter disappointment

    Just north of Israel and the Palestinian territories, Lebanon is one country where there is still some lingering appreciation for Mr Bush in some circles, albeit laced with disappointment.

    The administration's support for Lebanon's pro-Western factions in the turmoil following the 2005 assassination of the former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri was received with gratitude and relief.

    What was known in Washington as the "Cedar Revolution" - and to Lebanese as the "Independence Intifada" - was held up by Mr Bush as a successful result of his "freedom agenda".

    Liberal, anti-Syrian and pro-Western politicians swept to victory in the legislative elections that followed and formed a government for the first time in three decades.

    But bitter disappointment came in the summer of 2006, when Israel and Lebanon's Hezbollah militants engaged in a fierce war. Civilians were dying in large numbers, but for days Washington withheld from calling for a ceasefire.

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    Africa as a continent stands out as the main region in the world where Bush is most likely to be missed and where widespread support for the 62-year-old Texan mystified his critics.

    When he visited the continent in February, he was greeted everywhere by excited, happy crowds.
    Pew foundation polls suggested that he had approval ratings of up to 80%, even in countries with a dominantly Muslim population.
    In Darfur, many people reportedly name their newborn children George Bush.

    "While Bush's critics have given him little credit for his African initiatives, they will be among his most enduring legacies in a region of the world neglected by policymakers from both parties for too long," wrote Andrew Natsios, a fellow at the Hudson Institute, in an article in the Boston Globe last year.

    It helps that America is not fighting any wars in Africa, as it is in the Middle East or Central Asia.

    So in Africa, Bush would be remembered for "playing a central role as peacemaker in ending a 20-year civil war between the Arab north and African south," wrote Mr Natsios.

    "It was the Bush administration that first raised the alarm about the atrocities in Darfur, organised a massive humanitarian relief effort to save people in the displaced camps, and rallied an international coalition to send peacekeeping troops to restore order through the United Nations and the African Union," he added.

    When Mr Bush arrived in Tanzania in February, President Jakaya Kikwete poured praise on him.
    "Different people may have different views about you and your administration and your legacy," he said.

    "But we in Tanzania, if we are to speak for ourselves and for Africa, we know for sure that you, Mr President, and your administration have been good friends of our country and have been good friends of Africa."

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    What has really boosted Mr Bush's popularity there has been his decision to increase aid to Africa and the economic and health programmes he supported in the continent.

    Overall, foreign aid doubled during the Bush administration, and in Africa it quadrupled from $1.3bn in 2001 to $5bn in 2008.

    Additional billions of dollars were allocated to support his programmes to fight malaria and HIV/Aids and to reward good governance, programmes which have been viewed as a great success.

    Kori Schake, a member of the National Security Council during Mr Bush's first term, says a number of other countries around the world may miss President Bush, from those that were hoping to sign free trade agreements with Washington, like Colombia, to rising powers like India which signed a controversial nuclear co-operation deal with Washington outside the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

    Former Soviet republics like Ukraine and Georgia, which were hoping to join Nato or at least make good progress along that path, may also lament the end of the Bush administration.

    But it may well be that whether Mr Bush is missed or not will depend on what Barack Obama does as president.

    Finally, in their own way, leaders like Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, Cuba's former president Fidel Castro and Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad may come to miss the man they loved to hate when they have to start dealing with his successor, the man that the world loves to love.

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    I'm usually critical of all things Bush, but I give him a lot of credit for beginning to address the problems in Africa. This is an entire continent in crisis-in some parts of Africa, all the adults are dead or dying. In other parts, genocide is occurring.


    Not only did he establish some good programs to help the suffering people, he actually sent his daughters there to work in some of them.
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    I guess a history degree makes me more tolerant and prone to reserve judgement - so I refuse to demonize Bush and recongnize that he has been in a hard place since 9/11. I said in the aftermath that Bush would be hated before he left office because he will have to do things that look stupid because we don't have all the details - but since he does - he sees how those choices are what is best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I guess a history degree makes me more tolerant and prone to reserve judgement - so I refuse to demonize Bush and recongnize that he has been in a hard place since 9/11. I said in the aftermath that Bush would be hated before he left office because he will have to do things that look stupid because we don't have all the details - but since he does - he sees how those choices are what is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
    Sometimes a man has to do what a man has to do.
    Yup. and we cannot make a fair assessment of a presidents tenure until at least 50 years have passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    Yup. and we cannot make a fair assessment of a presidents tenure until at least 50 years have passed.
    LOL ...unless his name is Clinton ...then judgement is passed before he leaves office. How fucking stupid are you guys ? ...the hypocrisy is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    LOL ...unless his name is Clinton ...then judgement is passed before he leaves office. How fucking stupid are you guys ? ...the hypocrisy is amazing.
    Find one of my posts were I lambaste Clinton. Good luck. Stupid fucking leftists.
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    LOL ...unless his name is Clinton ...then judgement is passed before he leaves office.
    No one judged him.They impeached him for lying to a grand jury..but then again, Clenis could never keep it zipped anyway.

    How fucking stupid are you guys ? ...the hypocrisy is amazing.
    On one hand, we have a disgraced, impeached, disbarred, draft dodging ex president whose negligence and disinterest in the safety of his nation led to 9/11,as opposed to a qualified veteran and fighter pilot who, after his nation was attacked, took the fight to the enemy and kicked their ass six ways from Sunday.

    Pres. Bush will be remembered as a man who made his nation safe, who stood up to tyranny and despite the shrill hatred of so many of his fellow citizens, did what had to be done, regardless.

    As far as Barry Soetero is concerned, here is how he will be remembered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    How fucking stupid are you guys ? ...the hypocrisy is amazing.
    You would know about stupidity and hypocracy Ringo more than us. Being a leftist it's a vital part of your being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringo View Post
    LOL ...unless his name is Clinton ...then judgement is passed before he leaves office. How fucking stupid are you guys ? ...the hypocrisy is amazing.
    Thanks for the proof that you are as retarded as we all thought you were.

    Clintoon is critized for the "FACTS" surrounding his administration. President Bush is criticized by the Libertards and legacy media because of his politics. There is a big difference to rational people. Barking Moonbats like yourself are not expected to perform higher level thinking required to differentiate between the two.

    The overall performance of a past administration may take years to accurately summarize. Individual acts like firng cruise missiles to distract the population from getting a blowjob from a fat 20 year old intern under the Oval Office desk is easy to judge. Subourning perjury is easy to judge. Lying to the Entire world while looking into the camera; "I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski," is easy to judge.

    Clinton's impact on the economy and foreign relations is a different matter. Time and history will tell, not one's political ideology or irrational hatred.
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