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    Early trial shows hydroxychloroquine is NOT effective at treating Coronavirus

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    An early trial shows hydroxychloroquine is NOT effective at treating Coronavirus, but the drug does have deadly side-effects for many patients.

    Trump just told the entire country to take this.

    Don’t drink the Kool-Aid.

    https://news.yahoo.com/small-trial-f...124054137.html
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    trump was on national tv yesterday telling people that ventilators won't help them and that they should take hydroxychloroquine. he says, what do you have to lose.


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    A second French group, led by Jean-Michel Molina, has now tested the hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin combination treatment in 11 patients at the Hôpital Saint-Louis in Paris, France, and their results were strikingly different.


    Like the Marseille study, the Molina trial was also a small pilot study. Molina and colleagues used the same dosing regimen as Gautret. In contrast, however, to the Gautret study, eight of the 11 patients had underlying health conditions, and 10 of 11 had fevers and were quite ill at the time the dosing began.


    These Paris researchers found that after five to six days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine (600 mg per day for 10 days) and azithromycin (500 mg on day 1 and 250 mg on days 2 to 5), eight of the 10 patients still tested positive for COVID-19. Of these 10 patients, one patient died, two were transferred to the ICU and another had to be removed from the treatment due to serious complications.
    An eleven patient study isn't enough to tell you whether it is effective or not.

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    6. "What do you have to lose?" Is a life enough? God, Trump is an unfeeling dumbass. nt
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    12. And to think the orange anus now has a warehouse filled the the rafters with hydroxychloroquine...

    right next to his walk-in freezers filled wit 'freezer burn' steaks.

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    13. Hydroxychloroquine is going to become the next Laetrile

    Even if it turns out to be useless for COVID, it has become a political drug because Trump "endorsed" it

    For those who do not remember, laetrile was a quack cancer "cure" that became a popular cause with far-right politicians in the 1970s.
    It became a "political drug" because the left made it so. b

    I swear, the quickest way for President Trump to win the next election would be to tell the Democrats that they SHOULD NOT KILL THEMSELVES.

    Takket (11,259 posts)

    19. this is why what drumpf has been saying is so dangerous........

    he has been pushing this to the front of the line based on those flawed early studies and creating false confidence in people that the drug is a miracle cure, so no reason to stay home, right!

    he needs to shut the fuck up and wait for the medical community to say what patients should be taking, not the other way around
    It IS what many in the medical community ARE SAYING and ARE RECOMMENDING. And it isn't because President Trump had anything to say about it. The DUmmies are so hate filled that they will use ANYTHING to smear President Trump.

    C Moon (7,648 posts)

    24. He not only told the country to take it, he raved about it.
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    26. Fuckin idiot is wrong again. Zero surprise
    SWBTATTReg (10,417 posts)

    27. If I'm not mistakened, India has banned the export of this drug anyways. If we don't have

    an alternate supply chain, then I don't know what will happen, if this drug is even viable for use against the CV, which they haven't proved 100% yet.
    OBAMA'S H1N1 VIRUS: From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...1-pandemic.htm
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    OK DU-Moron iluvtennis, see ya and raise ya:

    https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article.../_pdf/-char/en

    Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19 associated pneumonia in clinical studies

    Summary:

    The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) virus is spreading rapidly, and scientists are endeavoring to discover drugs for its efficacious treatment in China. Chloroquine phosphate, an old drug for treatment of malaria, is shown to have apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China. The drug is recommended to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China for treatment of COVID-19 infection in larger populations in the future.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/e...pDOqKCZVyV/pub

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s414...YBvX0IsmnhD07w

    https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ponse-covid-19

    Bahrain, Belgium report coronavirus treatment touted by Trump is working for patients
    By Christine Dolan
    Last Updated: March 26, 2020 - 11:20am
    The Kingdom of Bahrain's Supreme Council of Health chairman said his country was among the first to use the drug and that its impact has been "profound," according to the Bahrain News Agency.

    Dr. Shaikh Mohamed, who leads the National Taskforce for Combating COVID-19, was also quoted by the news agency as saying hydroxychloroquine was administered according to the same regimens as those used in China and South Korea.
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    Meanwhile in Europe, another U.S. ally, Brussels, is reporting similar early success with the same drug and is taking steps to ensure its availability for the sickest coronavirus patients.
    Timeline of US Coronavirus Events & Actions: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index...tml#msg2169385

    Timeline of China Coronavirus Events & Actions: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index...tml#msg2184146

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    The DUmmies are so wrapped up in hatred that they're hoping that an effective treatment for C19 isn't found merely for political reasons. Very sick people.

    If anybody has a mole to burn then please start a DU poll asking DUmmies if they'll pledge to never accept HCQ treatment under any circumstances.
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    Rather than be optimistic about a potential cure that may save lives, the DUmp has chosen to immediately reject the possibility that this drug may give merely because President Trump considers it a solution to this crisis

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    Look at the French studies:
    Gautret et al. (2020) Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID‐19: results of an open‐label non‐randomized clinical trial. International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents – In Press 17 March 2020 – DOI : 10.1016/j.ijantimicag.2020.105949
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDK View Post
    The DUmmies are so wrapped up in hatred that they're hoping that an effective treatment for C19 isn't found merely for political reasons. Very sick people.

    If anybody has a mole to burn then please start a DU poll asking DUmmies if they'll pledge to never accept HCQ treatment under any circumstances.

    The Dummy morons live in such a teeny-tiny *bubble* of their own making that it really would be simple to burst ...

    So to emphasize what FDK wrote above:

    If anybody has a mole to burn then please start a DU poll asking DUmmies if they'll pledge to never accept HCQ treatment under any circumstances.
    Please, please someone go for it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Look at the French studies:
    Gautret et al. (2020) Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID‐19: results of an open‐label non‐randomized clinical trial. International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents – In Press 17 March 2020 – DOI : 10.1016/j.ijantimicag.2020.105949
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...24857920300996

    Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial
    Philippe Gautretab, Jean-Christophe Lagierac, Philippe Parolaab, Van Thuan Hoang, Line Meddeb, Morgane Mailhe, Barbara Doudier, Johan Courjon, Valérie Giordanengo, Vera Esteves Vieira, Hervé Tissot Dupont, Stéphane Honoré, Philippe Colson, Eric Chabrière, Bernard La Scola, Jean-Marc Rolain, Philippe Brouqui, Didier Raoult
    Available online 20 March 2020, 105949

    Abstract
    ...
    Results
    Six patients were asymptomatic, 22 had upper respiratory tract infection symptoms and eight had lower respiratory tract infection symptoms.

    Twenty cases were treated in this study and showed a significant reduction of the viral carriage at D6-post inclusion compared to controls, and much lower average carrying duration than reported of untreated patients in the literature. Azithromycin added to hydroxychloroquine was significantly more efficient for virus elimination.

    Conclusion
    Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin.
    This is the study in Marseilles to which the DU OP article alludes.

    Meanwhile, DU's Politighouls have another bogeymen to fear, https://www.genengnews.com/virology/...thin-48-hours/ . Ivermectin is another drug with a well-known safety record (came into use in 1981). IF it does in human bodies what it has been shown to do in a Petri dish ... more and on DU!
    Timeline of US Coronavirus Events & Actions: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index...tml#msg2169385

    Timeline of China Coronavirus Events & Actions: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index...tml#msg2184146

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    Got a new one for you:

    https://abc7.com/coronavirus-drug-co...quine/6079864/

    Sunday, April 5, 2020 11:48PM

    LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A Los Angeles doctor said he is seeing significant success in prescribing the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc to treat patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19.

    Hydroxychloroquine has been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19 by President Trump among others, but it remains controversial as some experts believe it is unproven and may not be effective.

    The drug has long been used for treatment of malaria and conditions such as lupus and arthritis but is not technically approved by the FDA for COVID-19. The agency, however, is encouraging trials and has provided limited emergency authorization for its use to treat COVID-19 patients.

    Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.

    "Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution.
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    Timeline of US Coronavirus Events & Actions: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index...tml#msg2169385

    Timeline of China Coronavirus Events & Actions: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index...tml#msg2184146

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