Just my two bits, gator, don't give Ringo there the attention he is begging for. I for one would have no issue bringing up where Bush has screwed up (there have been several), but unless you want to throw this poor fool a life preserver and show some quotes of what he is claiming, that we the denziens of CU have claimed that the libs made Bush betray conservatives, do it in another thread. Bringing actual intelligent debate and facts into one of his threads will only validate the poor putz, and likely get your own words used against you by the same aforementioned putz.