But what about warrantless domestic wiretapping
And ...the quote you provided doesn't say WHY Bush needed to go around FISA and not get warrants.
It simply says Bush ordered the NSA to intercept international calls.
What is the new tool you mentioned ? ...a wiretapp certainly isn't new.
The excerpt I posted was the prologue of the 42 page non-classified document that the Department of Justice published to explain the legalities of his use of the wire taps.
So go download adobe, and read it.
It depends on what court order you are avoiding.
If you ignore the court when they tell you not to drive ...you will get in more trouble, it's called violating a court order
The court is the law, and violating their orders is agaisnt the law...thats why you get in trouble when you ignore the courts orders.
What the fuck is the new tool ? ...wiretaping ? ...thats not new. I would have no problem with Bush wiretaping through the FISA court.
My question is why did Bush need to go around FISA ?
You initially indicated that "going around the courts" was "clearly illegal".
I asked you what law such action was violating.
Now you say that violating a court order is against the law.
At least we have a starting point that we can agree. Violating a court order is against the law.
But how about we get back to your initial assertion, which I questioned you about...that being that taking action to avoid going to the courts is clearly illegal.
Please tell me what law it violates, since there is no court order in effect that is being violated. In fact, as you conceded earlier, there was a failure to utilize the court, hence, no order.
So, would you like to try again?
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