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    Okay, so you don't regard it as murder. We regard imprisonment or the death penalty as appropriate for murderers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    "Week's"; it's possessive, you know. Women seem to be better in general at grammar and spelling; I'll bet most of them could be passable in half the time. ;)

    I'm just generally interested, when people call abortion murder, what they think the penalty should be for the woman who voluntarily commits the murder ("judge and jury", as one post called her). I find that people shy away from punishing the woman, so they must not really think it IS murder.
    Would it be appropriate to treat them the same way they treated their child??
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    I'm askin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    "Week's"; it's possessive, you know. Women seem to be better in general at grammar and spelling; I'll bet most of them could be passable in half the time. ;)

    I'm just generally interested, when people call abortion murder, what they think the penalty should be for the woman who voluntarily commits the murder ("judge and jury", as one post called her). I find that people shy away from punishing the woman, so they must not really think it IS murder.
    I wasns't quite sure where you were going with this. I am the author of the quoted post.

    If the abortion was illegal, the punishment would be decided by the judge. There are usually statutes that define punishment for crimes. If you want my opinion, I don't know. It is an interesting question that I have not previously thought about.

    The eventual reckoning with God is punishment enough. The guilt of being THE murderer of my own baby would be enough punishment for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    They were probably stopped because of corrupt Illinois Governors

    They were stopped by a corrupt Illinois governor (George Ryan), trying to influence his Chicago liberal jury pool.
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    I'm not a death penalty supporter, mainly because mistakes get made enough that I could never be 100% sure of someone's guilt, if I were a juror. Even with DNA evidence-nothing is perfect, labs make mistakes, and so on. I'm glad I live in a state that doesn't have it, unless someone commits a murder of federal land.

    I still don't have much sympathy for the killers, when they do end up getting the death penalty in a dp state. I don't think that killers should ever get out of prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Okay, so you don't regard it as murder. We regard imprisonment or the death penalty as appropriate for murderers.
    Personally, I think it difficult to decide on a punishment because most women don't believe that they are ending a human life, because for over 30 years they've been told that it is just a medical procedure. However, if it were made illegal, I think that imprisonment would be appropriate, or whatever punishment a state uses for infanticide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    "Week's"; it's possessive, you know. Women seem to be better in general at grammar and spelling; I'll bet most of them could be passable in half the time. ;)

    I'm just generally interested, when people call abortion murder, what they think the penalty should be for the woman who voluntarily commits the murder ("judge and jury", as one post called her). I find that people shy away from punishing the woman, so they must not really think it IS murder.
    Are we working from the assumption that abortion being illegal to begin with or is this hypothetical based on the current state of the laws?

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    Under the current law, naturally there's nothing to prosecute. I was speaking in case of the unlikely event it were to become illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic Rose View Post
    Personally, I think it difficult to decide on a punishment because most women don't believe that they are ending a human life, because for over 30 years they've been told that it is just a medical procedure. However, if it were made illegal, I think that imprisonment would be appropriate, or whatever punishment a state uses for infanticide.
    That shouldn't matter. Most murderers think that their crimes were justified and lay the cause of their guilt at the feet of the culture they grew up in.

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