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    kpete (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 11:54 AM
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    Former USS Cole commander slams Obama on Guantanamo
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    Former USS Cole commander slams Obama on Guantanamo

    By Carol Rosenberg | Miami Herald

    The former commander of the USS Cole, the American war ship that was struck by a suicide boat in Yemeni waters more than eight years ago, on Thursday slammed President Barack Obama's orders to close the Guantanamo detention center and reassess the prisoners being held there.

    ''We shouldn't make policy decisions based on human rights and legal advocacy groups,'' retired U.S. Navy Cmdr. Kurt Lippold said in a telephone interview. "We should consider what is best for the American people, which is not to jeopardize those who are fighting the war on terror — or even more adversely impact the families who have already suffered loses as a result of the war."

    Lippold was responding to the decision by a U.S. military judge in Guantanamo to reject a request by Pentagon lawyers to delay next week's scheduled arraignment of Abd el Rahim al Nashiri, a Saudi Arabian who's charged with helping orchestrate the October 2000 suicide bombing of the Cole. The bombing killed 17 U.S. sailors.

    In his ruling, the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, said a delay in Nashiri's arraignment would deny the public's interest in a speedy trial. He also said nothing that took place at the arraignment would prevent the Obama administration from deciding to deal with Nashiri in a forum other than the military commission now set to hear his case.

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    bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 11:55 AM
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    1. Criticism of the Commander in Chief provides direct aid and comfort to the enemy
    At least that's what we were told for the last 8 years.
    blueclown (518 posts) Fri Jan-30-09 11:57 AM
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    3. Arrest him for treason.
    Howardx (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:03 PM
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    5. does letting his ship be bombed
    make him a terrorism expert?
    atreides1 (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:03 PM
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    6. That's why he retired as a Commander
    Edited on Fri Jan-30-09 12:26 PM by atreides1
    It's nice to know that the commander has little regard for human rights or justice.

    And he thinks that it's in the best interest of the American people to piss on the Constitution, a document he swore to defend.


    "Lippold's own pronouncements in the case were ironic. A Navy inquiry questioned whether Lippold had taken appropriate measures to prevent an attack on the vessel. No one was in the ship's command center when the suicide boat rammed into the Cole's side and no planning had been undertaken for such an eventuality. But Lippold was not disciplined."

    Maybe those 17 families are just as disappointed that Lippold wasn't disciplined under the UCMJ, but he was disciplined.

    Karenina (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:36 PM
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    17. FIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY.

    Royal Sloan 09 (93 posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:08 PM
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    8. Court-martial
    Can a Officer be charged with dissent or some other charges against following a lawful given orders from his CiC? Under the last resident of the white House it would have happened, so Obama can choose to play with the embedded military obstructionist or take them out of the service for their dissension.
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    Karenina (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:36 PM
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    17. FIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY.
    Fire him from retirement?

    Royal Sloan 09 (93 posts) Fri Jan-30-09 12:08 PM
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    8. Court-martial
    Can a Officer be charged with dissent or some other charges against following a lawful given orders from his CiC? Under the last resident of the white House it would have happened, so Obama can choose to play with the embedded military obstructionist or take them out of the service for their dissensio
    He's retired. He isnt in the service any more.

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    24. You should know better

    Lippold was not disciplined for obvious reasons; the rules of engagement at the time forbade his crew from opening fire on the approaching boat, which is why standing rules were reviewed and altered as a result. 17 good sailors died because we didn't (And often still don't) allow our warship to act as a warship.

    I expect the usual from the usual civilian idiots, but you should know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atreides1
    And he thinks that it's in the best interest of the American people to piss on the Constitution, a document he swore to defend.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I was born in Canada after all, but all my schooling was in the U.S. Don't the rights granted in the U.S. Constituition apply only to U.S. citizens? I don't recall in social studies class reading anywhere that it applied to Muzzie terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YupItsMe View Post
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I was born in Canada after all, but all my schooling was in the U.S. Don't the rights granted in the U.S. Constituition apply only to U.S. citizens? I don't recall in social studies class reading anywhere that it applied to Muzzie terrorists.
    The DUmmies slept during that part of Civics class.
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    They are soooo damn rich, aren't they?
    They are cute. Makes one wonder what they'll be when they grow up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YupItsMe View Post
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I was born in Canada after all, but all my schooling was in the U.S. Don't the rights granted in the U.S. Constituition apply only to U.S. citizens? I don't recall in social studies class reading anywhere that it applied to Muzzie terrorists.
    Used to be. The liberal courts changed that.
    I long for the days when our President actually liked our country.
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