03-21-2009, 11:09 AM
Of course, as a utilitarian, you are perfectly willing to disregard the fundamental righs of one in favor of the theoretical right of another if it is necessary to achieve your "good".
Thus far, you have argued that person and human being are different things, but have offered up exactly squat in the way of proof. Clearly it is your opinion that they are different but your opinion doesn't carry enough weight to be considered credible evidence.It is only upon careful observation, with a magnifying glass, on a sunny day, that one comes to realize how often ants burst into flames.
03-26-2009, 07:17 PM
You have absolutely no way to prove that an embryo is not a human being. You just continue on with this argument of personhood which makes no sense at all and is simply a way to lessen your guilt.
Originally Posted by wilbur
During the time of slavery and discrimination, people would devalue black people using nearly the exact same arguments you are using right now. They would say that black people are not persons because of their skin color and the fact that they were less educated. By freeing black people the Southern economy would collapse, and it did. Today people argue for the mother's economic condition just as people during the time of slavery argued for the economic survival of the plantation owner. The similarities are immense. Here is a quote from John F. Kennedy's Civil Rights Address:
Originally Posted by JFK"Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives."
Life is a story; if you stay on the same page forever you will never finish it.
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03-29-2009, 01:19 PM
Seems wilbur has run away to hide from the facts. He has made claims that he can prove his argument when clearly he can't. I am relatively new here, is that his standard tactic?It is only upon careful observation, with a magnifying glass, on a sunny day, that one comes to realize how often ants burst into flames.
“Progress is Providence without God. That is, it is a theory that everything has always
perpetually gone right by accident. It is a sort of atheistic optimism, based on an
everlasting coincidence far more miraculous than a miracle.”
G. K. Chesterton
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