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    A protest is one thing. A rebellion is another. The last major rebellion didn't end very well for the rebels. I'd hate to see Chuck end up in prison for treason, because his protest rally turned into something much bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Let us know how the rally goes, Megi.
    At least they will be fully clothed unlike the fags and lesbos in DC on inaguration day plus they will not be defacing military monuments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    The last major rebellion didn't end very well for the rebels.
    I hate to say it, but you're right. That was the last realistic chance to change the federal government from becoming the big monolithic pile of shit it has become. It will wipe out any rebellion and rewrite the history to show the rebels as nothing more than terrorists. The only feasible rebellion today is at the voting booth. Not likely, since no decent person would want to get into government, just feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    I hate to say it, but you're right. That was the last realistic chance to change the federal government from becoming the big monolithic pile of shit it has become. It will wipe out any rebellion and rewrite the history to show the rebels as nothing more than terrorists. The only feasible rebellion today is at the voting booth. Not likely, since no decent person would want to get into government, just feasible.

    After the way the media treated the Bush twins and Chelsea Clinton, no parent of teens is going to want to run for president. Obama's kids are little enough that for now, at least, the media is not treating them badly. Yet.
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    Where were these right wing rebel groups for the past 8 years?
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    I'd hate to see Chuck end up in prison for treason, because his protest rally turned into something much bigger.
    I'd say that if he is there, then Kerry should be in the cell next to him.And Hanoi Jane Fonda. And Baez.

    And half the Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    The only feasible rebellion today is at the voting booth.
    Spot on.

    Only a military coup d’état could rebel against the U.S. Government and realistically win. Not for nothing, but if it came to a point where armed insurrectionists from the militia movement gathered in the thousands and tried to overthrow the government the U.S. Military would slaughter them. They wouldn't stand a chance. And nobody wants massive death and destruction (except maybe the kooks and anarchists) just to chance what you don't like about the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinejcksn View Post
    Spot on.

    Only a military coup d’état could rebel against the U.S. Government and realistically win. Not for nothing, but if it came to a point where armed insurrectionists from the militia movement gathered in the thousands and tried to overthrow the government the U.S. Military would slaughter them. They wouldn't stand a chance. And nobody wants massive death and destruction (except maybe the kooks and anarchists) just to chance what you don't like about the government.
    I'm closer to Anarchist than I am Collectivist....presuming you believe that socialism and leftist ideology is several rungs away from total collectivist fascism/Communism. The way Hayak suggested. :D

    Are you aware of the state legislatures introducing bills that are trying to strenghten a states 10th amendments righs? One such defiantly had language suggesting all military officers of that particular state would return to the state of residence if the federal government imposed martial law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    I'm closer to Anarchist than I am Collectivist....presuming you believe that socialism and leftist ideology is several rungs away from total collectivist fascism/Communism. The way Hayak suggested. :D

    Are you aware of the state legislatures introducing bills that are trying to strenghten a states 10th amendments righs? One such defiantly had language suggesting all military officers of that particular state would return to the state of residence if the federal government imposed martial law.
    1st. Hayak is the SH*T! I read Road to Serfdom a bunch in Iraq.

    And I can kinda identify with Anarchists, or I should say Minarchists because I'm an extremely limited-government Libertarian but I do believe we need SOME level of law and order. The Founders envisioned the Federal Government to be sort of a "night watchman" and I think that's all they should be doing.

    I'm excited to hear they want to strenghthen States Rights, but I hadn't heard of them trying to recall Officers in the case of Martial Law. That wouldn't fly in my book. States have a National Guard force for a reason; the moment you start putting Active Duty Military troops on the streets of this country, Thomas Jefferson's vision is truly lost. :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    I'm closer to Anarchist than I am Collectivist....presuming you believe that socialism and leftist ideology is several rungs away from total collectivist fascism/Communism. The way Hayak suggested. :D

    Are you aware of the state legislatures introducing bills that are trying to strenghten a states 10th amendments righs? One such defiantly had language suggesting all military officers of that particular state would return to the state of residence if the federal government imposed martial law.
    Sounds like the same state calls to it's own military leadership as just before the American civil war of 1860 !If there is to be an uprising as guaranteed by the constitution when the government fails the people the way this one is sure to some,not all, will advocate a change in government by replacing those in power .

    Obama in a way is something of a prophet warning us by comparing himself to Abraham Lincoln who when he was elected caused the South to declare Independence from the Union just before he took office .

    They saw his works and listened to his words and knew what he was about as we should have also !

    Some states have anticipated this already with their declarations of state sovereignty and they will next establish their declarations of Independence from this disaster of governmental power by elected position .

    If the call went out for federal troops to suppress an popular armed outrage the people would be butchered .The disparity between an armed populous with small arms and today's military is profound.

    Most in the military,fresh from Iraq and Afghanistan ,would,after an initial period,refuse to slaughter Americans and they the Congress and the White House know this.

    They are on a very dangerous course provoking the people and must believe that most are by now just sheep.

    The House of Congress is totally under the control of a despotic deluded female who is beholding to a small cadre of power brokers led and financed by a cartel of International money men headed/fronted by I believe George Soros .The Senate of the Congress is headed by an equally despot who takes the orders from the same group.


    To me people withholding their money from the general economy and refusing to invest in this disaster of an economy is also a good way to go in the fight against Socialism and this new radical Communistic government .

    The federal government is fast failing in credibility printing money whose value is in question.If we the people refuse to participate in our own economy by delaying purchases and refusing to spend or borrow money with great confidence they lose .Goods and services are by far provided by small company's in America and if they are unable to finance their own businesses they will have to operate at a level they can afford.

    The government will fight back by more restrictive laws just like the British did before the original revolution but we have the numbers and we are the ultimate consumers .We can easily remove/replace low level state bureaucrats one way or another as Mr. Jefferson so aptly points out in his writings.
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