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    Okay, now we need a new thread outside of TEOTWAWKI Forum. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    There is a huge difference between birth control and embryonic stem cell research. One is an attempt preventing conception - the other is harvesting a human being as if that person is a commodity to be bought or sold like pork bellies.
    I agree, but wouldn't it be "murder" regardless if the fertilized egg is a person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsSmith View Post
    Lots of people do not understand that hormonal birth control can cause early abortion. Refusing to educate is a standard practice of those that think they know what's best for others.

    Can you explain why the fertilized egg should be less protected BECAUSE it can become more than the one individual?
    The boldened says it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I agree, but wouldn't it be "murder" regardless if the fertilized egg is a person?
    If the method is an abortificant - yes. If it is a preventative - no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Okay, now we need a new thread outside of TEOTWAWKI Forum. :D
    I agree to a split. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    If the method is an abortificant - yes. If it is a preventative - no.
    Hormonal birth control (as in pills, shots, etc) have the ability to stop ovulation, fertilization, or implantation. Some have argued that isn't true, but nearly every resource (medical, pro-life, and pro-choice) tend to agree about its abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Hormonal birth control (as in pills, shots, etc) have the ability to stop ovulation, fertilization, or implantation. Some have argued that isn't true, but nearly every resource (medical, pro-life, and pro-choice) tend to agree about its abilities.
    yes and? My honest thought on birth control is simple - if God wants you to have a baby - you're gonna have a baby no matter what precautions you take. My sister is a prime example. Not only was she conceived while my parents were taking precautions - she conceived while taking precautions - even to the point that she has Irish twins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    The boldened says it all.
    Yes, it says that, when an embryo is killed by a human being, that human cannot know if he has just murdered 1 individual, or 2, or even 3. How can this make the embryo less than an individual?
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