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    The coldest winter in a decade in many places, with snow in unlikely cities such as New Orleans, has deflated some of the hot air in global warming. And a heavy snowfall that paralyzed Washington, D.C., upstaged a mass demonstration scheduled to promote global warming.

    Nevertheless, according to Al Gore and the mainstream media, "the debate is over" proving that global warming exists, that humans are causing it and that "science is settled."

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    Many scientists and other observers have come to realize that global warming is no longer a question of science but is all about politics and money. Their slogan, cap-and-trade, was best explained by House Minority Leader John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, as "a carbon tax that will increase taxes on all Americans who drive a car, who have a job, who turn on a light switch."

    President Obama is being pressured by James McCarthy, head of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, to rush his carbon tax through Congress before the American people discover the lie in Obama's promise that "95 percent of working families" will not see their taxes rise by "a single dime." In fact, his own budget shows that taxes will rise for 100 percent of Americans for the sake of global warming.

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    Nevertheless, according to Al Gore and the mainstream media, "the debate is over" proving that global warming exists, that humans are causing it and that "science is settled."
    Apparently the debate is over in Al Gore's mind about global warming yet it rages on concerning the 2000 election.

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    Let me start with this: It could be argued that Al Gore's association with climate and environment science has done as much to muddy and slow the process of responsible solutions to accurate science as any industry funded PR campaign. Conclusions in his film and talks were overreaching and, in some cases, alarmist. This inadvertently served to push many people into "selective listening" mode--accepting without questing that which confirms your personal beliefs and disregarding information that doesn't.

    That being said, I'll restate my opinion about these types of stories: As the U.S. experiences continued harsh winter weather, far too many people in the news media (Internet blogs, forums, etc.) engage in a willful ignorance when they suggest that the vicissitudes of winter weather cast doubt on human caused climate change. Derisive and sarcastic remarks about winter storms and global warming really only show a person’s lack of knowledge on the issues and the elementary distinction between climate and weather.

    Reporters and pundits alike dismiss decades of peer-reviewed research and consensus with misleading “talking points” from industry front groups and lobbyists. The opinions of the dominant majority of the world's scientific establishment are marginalized with straw man arguments. It is the news media’s responsibility to guard the public from misinformation, however industry advocates and commentators who dismiss human culpability for climate change continue to get equal time even after being thoroughly discredited by PR watchdogs as well as the scientific community at large. (S. Fred Singer, Richard S. Lindzen, Arthur B. Robinson, Patrick J. Michaels).

    Regarding EPA Report 03-20

    I have mixed feelings about the EPA report submitted to the White House on Friday regarding global warming and public health. To quickly review the history of this report: In 2007, the Supreme Court instructed the Bush administration to determine whether greenhouse gases should be regulated under the Clean Air Act. Last July, EPA officials had compiled the data answering this question, but the then-EPA Administrator Stephen L. Johnson decided that the agency would instead seek additional public comment on the threat posed by global-warming pollution. Again, the data in this report has undergone proper peer-review and scrutiny per rigorous (somewhat overly cautious IMO) EPA procedures.

    Although, I'm glad the EPA has finally followed through on the courts' directive, the reactionary nature of federal legislation, (e.g. the taxing of AIG bonuses) is often counter productive and has many unintended consequences. I would rather have seen an "invisible hand" of sorts come into play 8-10 years ago where the fossil fuel and energy industries were more proactive in their efforts to self-regulate and diversify.

    Bill Kovacs, vice president, of environment, technology and regulatory affairs at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, made some valid points during this Q&A Session. Although, in the final statement, he reverted to industry PR attempting to muddy the waters by backing a theory (solar activity and volcanoes) that has not stood up under peer-review. (yet... to be fair)

    Global Warming does not mean the end of winter, but rather shorter Spring and Fall. Record breaking winter storms should be of great concern, especially to those directly effected.
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    Let me repeat -
    Many scientists and other observers have come to realize that global warming is no longer a question of science but is all about politics and money.
    And for these decades old studies, were they taken during the glowball cooling scare? We people always need to be frightened of something and its thier job to throw our money at the threat of the decade.

    Its funny as more years go by, no rising tides, no mass starvation, no catastrophic storms. Just the same old weather that we always have.

    I believe Boortz when he says:

    Always keep in mind that the environmental movement was essentially hijacked by communists and socialists after the fall of the Soviet Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    Let me repeat -

    And for these decades old studies, were they taken during the glowball cooling scare? We people always need to be frightened of something and its thier job to throw our money at the threat of the decade.

    Its funny as more years go by, no rising tides, no mass starvation, no catastrophic storms. Just the same old weather that we always have.

    I believe Boortz when he says:
    And now that lots of money is involved, the issue gets muddier and muddier. Once a lot of money was getting shoved to cancer and AIDS research it almost guaranteed that a cure would never be found. Too many people now make too much money "developing" a fix for "global warming", that it would be counter-productive to the health of their bank accounts if the truth were known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    Once a lot of money was getting shoved to cancer and AIDS research it almost guaranteed that a cure would never be found.
    How so? How does funding research hinder advances in science?

    Not sure I understand your analogy. Are cancer and AIDS going to eventually correct themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    How so? How does funding research hinder advances in science?

    Not sure I understand your analogy. Are cancer and AIDS going to eventually correct themselves?
    I think he means the R&R is a cash cow. It would be counter productive for them to hurry up and get a cure, cynical isn't it.

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    Global Warming does not mean the end of winter, but rather shorter Spring and Fall. Record breaking winter storms should be of great concern, especially to those directly effected.
    Global warming / climate change / whatever else you care to call it so as to "muddy the waters" is a lie, a myth, a scam, it's bullshit panic mongering.

    It, along with the myth of some nebulous, non existent place called "Palestine"(purportedly somewhere in the Middle East) is simply a money making Ponzi scheme backed by a series of lies.

    Ten metre sea level rises? No.

    Maldives sinking? A lie.

    More hurricanes? Less.

    Hotter? Colder..try again.

    We had the Saturn Conjunction causing widespread devastation), Halleys Comet, Global cooling, nuclear missiles knocking earth off its orbit into the sun, nuclear missiles knocking earth out of its orbit into space..and who knows how many more panic merchanting doomsday scenarios in the past.

    All that's missing is a B Ark and a giant mutant star goat.

    I loved that garbage movie Day After Tomorrow....I see they released the movie without the added advisory that the only way that the events in that film to take place, was for the Earth to stop spinning, start turning the other way, and to then revoke the laws of thermodynamics all at the same time.

    We keep hearing how we have to "help mother earth" yet it always seems to come with a price tag...like these idiotic new lightbulbs that supposedly will help save us money but cost FIVE TIMES as much as the old ones and which contain mercury.

    Gore, like the rest of them, is in it for the money, is a rank and blatant hypocrite, and I note that all the "saviours of the earth" have not gone off the grid, sold their cars, stopped flying , sold their computers, switched to fully solar or gotten rid of all their mod cons.

    We had a meeting of the "saviours of mother nature" in a park the other day....the garbage men had a very long afternoon cleaning up after them.

    Do as I say, not as I do.

    I also note that apparently the "experts" can tell us what the climate will be in a hundred years...but cant tell me what the weather will be tomorrow.

    Green on the outside,red on the inside. This was cute.

    Save the earth, cull the humans

    Oh yeah almost forgot, how many carbon credits do we need to buy from one of Gore's companies for the volcanic eruption a few days ago?

    Not listening.
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    If this stupidity materializes, investors will gobble up carbon tax credits when they go on sale, hold them and then sell them at increased prices similar to a scalper jacking up the prices of super bowl tickets. Sharp cookies across the pond made a shit pot full of money doing that.
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