03-30-2009, 12:46 PMNever argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
03-30-2009, 12:52 PMNever argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
03-30-2009, 12:56 PM
NOW as for reading what Odysseus posted - did you catch this part?and Moslems are the only group where the practice extends beyond south Asian ethnicity.Stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
03-30-2009, 01:27 PMNever argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
03-30-2009, 01:34 PMStand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
03-30-2009, 02:02 PM
As to the other question, which refers to dowry murders, that is indeed a cultural issue among Hindus, but while family honor is one consideration, it is primarily a financially motivated crime. Also, the honor killings that occur in areas of mixed religious affiliations do not occur among different religions in those areas. Texas is not an Islamic state, but a Moslem murdered his two daughters near Dallas. This doesn't make honor killings endemic to Texas. As I pointed out above, even in the Moslem world, one does not find non-Moslem Arabs committing honor killings. It is a uniquely Moslem phenomenon.
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03-30-2009, 02:58 PM
My point through this whole debate has been that it is not just Muslims who have honor killings. I stated that they were cultural in nature and in this cause the culture calling for this action was mostly Muslim.Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
03-30-2009, 03:29 PM
Nearly nine years after a young Sikh woman mysteriously disappeared while on a visit to India, her husband and mother-in-law were on Wednesday jailed for life for arranging her murder after it emerged that she was having an affair and wanted a divorce.
The body of the victim, Surjit Athwal (27), a customs officer at Heathrow airport, was never found and the mystery of her disappearance might have remained had her mother-in-law Bachan Athwal not happened to boast to her family that she got her brother to strangle Surjit and throw her body into a river.
In the above case the honor killing was performed by a Sikh family. The following is a link to an op-ed piece from The Telegraph of Calcutta noting that honor killings are still a problem in India.
In northern India honor killings are becoming epidemic among not only the Muslims but also the Hindus. In India strict adherence to that caste system is to blame for most of the honor killings. Marriage outside of the caste can and does earn both male and females death at the hands of offended relatives.
There are less honor killings out side of the Muslim mindset, but I do believe that the concept of honor killings was imported from India into the Middle East by Verdic Hinduism that was the majority religion in the Arab states long before Islam arose.
I am sorry to drag out this discussion like this, but I have learned a lot about the subject from you gentlement and it has forced me to do a bit of research on my own. I was hoping to get my new blog software configured and working today but this conversation has been much more enlightening.Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
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