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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostThere View Post
    Seriously, what makes you think that by the time that can be done, it will make any difference what they do? You don't think that so much injury can be inflicted that the patient cannot survive no matter what life-saving means are used?

    A representative of the IRS told lawyers for tax-exempt organizations that what they pay their executives is going to receive far more scrutiny in the same way banks and other corporations do who accept gov money. It seems they are taking gov money by being tax-exempt.

    You are far more optimistic than I am.
    I hear you. I think that we've gone well beyond being able to trust politicans no matter how well intentioned they miight seem. The system has become an agent of corruptiion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    do you have a link for that?
    Monday's Wall Street Journal.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1239...googlenews_wsj
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostThere View Post
    And Hazlnut wants to claim Barry isn't a socialist . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    And Hazlnut wants to claim Barry isn't a socialist . . . .
    If a Republican President tried what Obama has, it would be a race between Republicans and Democrats to see who got his head on a pike first. I despise the Democrats for what they are doing to our country. I think I despise the Republicans more for not lifting a finger to stop it. One destroying our way of life and the other passively watching it happen, both for political gain. The bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph wiggum View Post
    Hopefully we can elect a few that will do the right thing.
    I think we are past the point where we can elect people that will straighten out this country. Congress has become an American House of Lords. There is too much money and power to be had by a politician to sell his/her representation.

    I don't think the Founding Fathers ever envisioned a government that collects over a third of the GNP for the cost of government. I don't think they ever saw it coming and understood the propensity for greed and corruption and the fact that politicians will sell out their country.

    I think the FFs were always under the impression that most elected representatives would be working for the common good of the country instead of selfish interest. They knew it wouldn’t always be the case and that is why we have the Second Amendment to make corrections when necessary. I guess they never thought the American people would get to the point where they wouldn’t care anymore.

    I think the only way out of this mess is to have another revolution to restore the Constitution and the Republic. However, I don’t think we have the guts to do it. After all, we are much more interested in watching American Idol and going to the mall than restoring the Republic aren’t we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gator View Post
    After all, we are much more interested in watching American Idol and going to the mall than restoring the Republic aren’t we?
    Right here on CU there's a thread which breathlessly asks which character is going to die on some network drama show, and it has as many posts as this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Right here on CU there's a thread which breathlessly asks which character is going to die on some network drama show, and it has as many posts as this one.
    you notice how many of those posts in the thread you mention are mine right?
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    I am 1000% against a revolution. We do not have a populace - or a leadership here of the character of the the founding fathers. We have a populace of the character of Paris at the time of the french revolution. Only a fool wants to see that kind of carnage and militant selfishness prevail by way of revolution.
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    No, PoliCon, I didn't notice how many posts were yours. Just that there seems to be more excitement over "House" and "24" than over issues like this.
    I also disagree that our populace is like that of Paris at the time of the Revolution. It's more like Paris at the time of the collapse of Napoleon III's regime in 1870; the people had been living well for a good long time, and didn't adjust well to a sudden change downward.
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    linda - what I mean is that should we have a revolution - the results would be akin to that of paris during the reign of terror.
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