06-04-2008, 05:45 PM
06-04-2008, 05:50 PM
Peak oil is a bunch of crap.
We have enough oil for well over 100 years of complete self sufficiency IF the Democrats and the environmental kooks would allow us to go after it.
Our Domestic reserves are actually increasing because of new discoveries. The problem is that we are suffering from an undue liberal influence.
ANWR is NOT the answer. Not all by itself - but that is the tactic of the left. They dismiss each potential site INDIVIDUALLY instead of taking the honest approach of evaluating our reserves as a whole.
That is sort of like saying a flood is not dangerous because a drop of water is harmless.
Last edited by Constitutionally Speaking; 06-04-2008 at 05:52 PM.
06-04-2008, 06:31 PM
ESPN this weekend on NHRA Racing: NHRA nitro racers were notified by the sanctioning body management their testing will be limited to non-national event facilities and all day-after event testing is postponed indefinitely until the impending nitro shortage for the official distributor is resolved.At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
06-04-2008, 08:51 PM
[QUOTE=LogansPapa;1758]Well, let me continue this conversation by saying what you may consider 'disjointed issues' may just be a lack of capacity to grasp on your part.
Basic manufacturing theory.
You act as if I had/have personal control over this? WTF? The town I live in was once floating on a pool of oil. There are still hundreds everywhere - even on the fringes of million dollar housing tracts. I have no idea why people keep harping about domestic oil drilling - put McCain in office and mandate that we put the thousands of "stacked" rigs back to work - based on a national emergency. But please, climb out of my ass on this point. Like nuclear - oil drilling technology has advanced hugely in the last three decades.
I'm not up your @$$. You've obviously confused me with one of the gay marriage advocates. As for your proposal to put the stacked rigs back to work, that's an intelligent, lucid idea. Who are you and what have you done with the real LogansPapa?
As for Walmart's growth, they started on July 2, 1962, with one Wal-Mart Discount City store. Within five years, the company expanded to 24 stores across Arkansas and reached $12.6 million in sales. In 1968, it opened its first stores outside Arkansas, in Sikeston, Missouri and Claremore, Oklahoma. Walmart incorporated in 1969 with 38 stores operating with 1,500 employees and sales of $44.2 million. I don't know or care when they opened their first store in California, but I'd guess that it was in the early 1980s at the latest, since by 1987 there were 1,198 stores with sales of $15.9 billion. As for the Laogai labor, if half of China's output (to use a random, but easily understood figure) is made by slave labor and half is made by labor at competitive wages, the average wage for all output is kept low by the use of slave labor. WalMart doesn't have to import items made by prisoners in order to subsidize the system.
06-05-2008, 02:18 PM
Odysseus wrote: WalMart doesn't have to import items made by prisoners in order to subsidize the system.
LogansPapa responds: Yes, I think we can put that in the "N/S Column" as you were obviously going for the point in your original post that the Chinese slave labor didn’t have any transportation issues to get to their jobs, as they were imprisoned.
>Finally, much of the labor involved in the lower-end of China's mass-produced goods (the "throw away items"), is done by forced labor in the Laogai (Gulag) system and has nothing to do with their transportation infrastructure, unless you consider a forced march of emaciated slaves from a barracks to be an alternative form of mass transit.<
My point was that Wal-Mart couldn’t afford that kind of exposure and the Chinese vendor’s employees would require some kind of mechanised transportation.
Odysseus wrote: The medals were for being in Iraq, which is in Asia. I really don't care what the Chinese smoke. It's their lungs.
LogansPapa responds: Yep, and Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman and Syria are too - technically - but most of us consider those countries to be in the Middle East. The term has been around for quite a while. Now getting back to Asia proper, what, exactly, does Iraq have to do with the throw away items found in ‘Big Box’ stores here in the States? Regarding the Chinese smoking habits - you really can’t see the economic trend here? You’re really of that much of a diminished capacity? Frightening.
Odysseus wrote: Actually, it isn't. Andersen AFB is supporting ongoing operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. The 7th Expeditionary Air Wing was moved to Guam to beef up the 36th Expeditionary Air Wing in March 2003, back when oil prices were much lower.
LogansPapa responds: My bad - I was under the impression that was the 40th Air Expeditionary Wing’s job, working out of Diego Garcia, in as much as it’s a little closer to those countries. Who knew? I thought the new facilities on Guam, including a new sub rack might have been in response to the threat to both Japan and Taiwan. Doh.
Odysseus wrote: I labeled you a Marxist because you buy off on so many of Marx's premises. If it's any consolation, I also consider you a crude antisemite.
LogansPapa responds: No, you labeled me because, like all of your kind - labels give you comfort. It’s the first things you do when confronted. Like calling Japanese "Japs" and "Monkeys". Don’t try to frill it up any more than it is - just a primitive reaction.
And all your tripe about China being unstable via the countries around them and populations under their control - all true, except that isn’t why they’ll bury us economically. They hold our debt. Research that reality for a while and you’ll find the real reason we’ll be going to war with the Chinese. The piper always comes for payment.At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
06-05-2008, 10:14 PM
As for Chinese smoking habits, nope, doesn't really resonate with me, but given the lack of women there, at least there won't be much in the way of sex to smoke after. FWIW, Arabs are heavy smokers, too, as are the French. The Iraqis consider American cigarettes the apex of the art. Doesn't really bother me, don't know why it bothers you.
06-06-2008, 11:35 AM
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I am merely pointing out that gas is relatively cheap compared to other products. I pay less per gallon of gas, a product that is valuable and necessary to me than I do for non essential products. Do you need further assistance with any other comments?
06-06-2008, 11:59 AM
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They have to sell these goods to somebody. At present that "somebody" is the United States of Walmart. When the Walmart shoppers don't buy their goods, it isn't likely that Chinese consumers will step into the gap. This will slow trade down.
They use/abuse their greatest national resource, people, to turn out their (our) cheap mass produced junk. We cannot compete because we don't have hundreds of millions of people standing in line to work 14 hour days for $3.00 a day.
The trade inbalance should correct itself when we stop buying their junk. Without our dollars, they cannot fuel their infant industrial machine.
06-06-2008, 12:00 PM
Bingo! Full Marks! :)At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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