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    More of the same from our atheist friends in England.

    The National Federation of Atheist, Humanist and Secular Student Societies (AHS) plans to launch a recruitment drive this summer.

    Backed by professors Richard Dawkins and AC Grayling, the initiative aims to establish a network of atheist societies in schools to counter the role of Christianity.

    It will coincide with the first atheist summer camp for children that will teach that religious belief and doctrines can prevent ethical and moral behaviour.
    The federation aims to encourage students to lobby their schools and local authorities over what is taught in RE lessons and to call for daily acts of collective worship to be scrapped. It wants the societies to hold talks and educational events to persuade students not to believe in God.

    ChloŽ Clifford-Frith, AHS co-founder, said that the societies would act as a direct challenge to the Christian message being taught in schools.

    She expressed concern that Christian Unions could influence vulnerable teenagers looking for a club to belong to with fundamentalist doctrine.

    In particular, she claimed that some students were being told that homosexuality is a sin and to believe the Biblical account of creation.

    "We want to point out how silly some of these beliefs are and hope that these groups will help to do that," she said.
    After the fine examples set for us by the moral and ethical doctrines of the Soviet Union, China, North Korea and Cambodia under Pol Pot it's a wonder that every one hasn't abandoned religion for the higher moral ground of atheism.

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    Just wait until this project runs up against Islam in the schools. I doubt the Brits will be as keen to allow 'defamation' of Islam as they happily do for Christianity. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Just wait until this project runs up against Islam in the schools. I doubt the Brits will be as keen to allow 'defamation' of Islam as they happily do for Christianity. ;)
    I wouldnt count on it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    After the fine examples set for us by the moral and ethical doctrines of the Soviet Union, China, North Korea and Cambodia under Pol Pot it's a wonder that every one hasn't abandoned religion for the higher moral ground of atheism.
    Yes, atheism == communism... good lord dude, read a book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    I wouldnt count on it..
    It's an interesting quandary the Gay/Atheist lobby face.They demand equality in all things in the UK but will definitely run afoul with Islam.Islam in the UK has much more power than in the in the U.S. .Islam is much less tolerant than Christianity of both the Atheist and the Homo .IRAN has a habit of hanging their gays or of late gluing the offending orifice closed and purging them.When they run head to head in conflict there will be blood in the streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Yes, atheism == communism... good lord dude, read a book.
    You are becoming delusional in your old age. No where did I say that atheism = communism. Three of those four entities did happen to be communist and did put in place atheistic regimes that by some estimates killed nearly a hundred million people in the 20th century. Maybe killing that many people is a moral virtue of atheistic regimes and that is what has caused your confusion since communists feel the same way. However, I never said that one equaled the other. That was totally in your mind. Perhaps you should look in to a reading comprehension class. And while you improving your reading skills, you should read a book about Pol Pot's Cambodia. I don't believe he ever claimed that it was a communist state. But he did have put to death a good percentage of the Cambodian population so maybe that is why you are confusing him with communists. Pol Pot was, however, an atheist.

    Perhaps you can enlighten me and the rest of CU and name a successful, not murderous atheistic government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by megimoo View Post
    It's an interesting quandary the Gay/Atheist lobby face.They demand equality in all things in the UK but will definitely run afoul with Islam.Islam in the UK has much more power than in the in the U.S. .Islam is much less tolerant than Christianity of both the Atheist and the Homo .IRAN has a habit of hanging their gays or of late gluing the offending orifice closed and purging them.When they run head to head in conflict there will be blood in the streets.
    The common myth around here is that atheists have more tolerance of Islam... I have seen no evidence of this... just the opposite.

    It seems that there are only two kinds people in the world according to megs... good ol' right wing Christians... and the other people. And it seems this other group of people, to you, are one homogeneous bunch, harmoniously proclaiming the joys of atheism, liberalism and homosexuality. At this point Megs, one can only tell you to stop believing everything you read.... given the selection of articles you post on a regular basis, its no wonder you are so misinformed and confused.

    What you will see, should religion lose even more ground in the world, is Christians and Moslems become the best of buds, to fight the "common enemy". The Vatican of late, has even been addressing Islam in an almost submissive posture because of advances of godlessness. The envy they have for Muslim piety is palpable
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    The common myth around here is that atheists have more tolerance of Islam... I have seen no evidence of this... just the opposite.

    It seems that there are only two kinds people in the world according to megs... good ol' right wing Christians... and the other people. And it seems this other group of people, to you, are one homogeneous bunch, harmoniously proclaiming the joys of atheism, liberalism and homosexuality. At this point Megs, one can only tell you to stop believing everything you read.... given the selection of articles you post on a regular basis, its no wonder you are so misinformed and confused.

    What you will see, should religion lose even more ground in the world, is Christians and Moslems become the best of buds, to fight the "common enemy". The Vatican of late, has even been addressing Islam in an almost submissive posture because of advances of godlessness. The envy they have for Muslim piety is palpable

    Can you provide any evidence of Rome's envy of Islam ?Do you imply that Rome is impressed with the Muslem fealty towards Mecca five times a day and that they wish it was to Rome ?

    Rome has very little in common with Islam and much more with their sworn enemies Israel !Islam is a very violant intolerant system of beliefs that advocate killing or converting all non Muslims to Islam and killing all that would leave the fold.

    Islams goal is to conquer the world for Islam and kill all who resist.They made it to Europe once before and that was almost a total conquest of Europe but they were stopped and finally driven out of Spain in 1492 and they still consider Spain as theirs.Any professed atheist or gay wouldn't survive for very long .

    There are many good people in the world and not just Christians who believe in a creator and follow a lifestyle that would make many Christiands bow their heads in shame but Islam isn't one of those .Islam is a religion of death and destruction only interested in conquests and subjugation.

    For an militant, in your face,intolerant,hard core atheist to argue the point that GOD doesn't exist is in the face of all evidence absurd .The seasonal changes, the exactly right distance from its primary source of energy,its satellite regulating the tidal forces are much to much to be sheer Coincidence.The very symmetry of creation, creation that was designed to have the power to replicate itself in total while making necessary slight adjustments over generations is proof.The very planets and stars speak of his genus of Creation from a infinitesimal spark of created energy to worlds without end.As I said before Earth appears to have been 'custom made' for mankind and as further proof after many century's of search none like it have been found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    The common myth around here is that atheists have more tolerance of Islam... I have seen no evidence of this... just the opposite.
    No, no, no...not tolerance. Atheists have no tolerance for any religion. But they are afraid of Muslims. They know that Christians allow them the right to believe as they choose, but Muslims tolerate atheists as little as atheists tolerate Christians.

    And we all know what your favorite author says about the beliefs of others...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    I wouldnt count on it..
    Why? Britain's been extremely concilliatory towards Islamists. That whole beheading thing tends to bring out the Neville Chamberlain in them.
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    Yes, atheism == communism... good lord dude, read a book.
    Would you be so kind as to cite a communist state that wasn't avowedly secular and atheist?
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    The common myth around here is that atheists have more tolerance of Islam... I have seen no evidence of this... just the opposite.
    Really? When was the last time atheists rallied against Islamist terrorism? The atheists at International A.N.S.W.E.R and other various leftist groups seem to have no problem taking up the side of Al Qaeda and Hamas. They tend to reserve their ire for Christians (serious Christians, the kind who actually follow their scriptures as opposed to the ones who tend to think of Christianity as socialism with holidays) and Jews. But, feel free to cite one atheist group that has unabashedly supported the GWOT and opposed the global jihad.
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