Thread: WTF: Welfare Cell Phones?
#1 WTF: Welfare Cell Phones?04-27-2009, 04:22 PM
TracFone Wireless Launches SafeLink Wireless to Aid 1.5 Million Low-Income Households in New York
Participants Receive Over an Hour of Free Talk Time Monthly and Free Wireless Cell Phone
NEW YORK--(Business Wire)--
Today, TracFone Wireless, Inc., America`s leading prepaid cell phone provider announced its launch of SafeLink Wireless in New York. SafeLink Wireless will serve as the company`s distribution of Lifeline - a U.S. government supported program for income eligible households that ensures telephone service is available and affordable for eligible low-income households.
I stumbled across this story and blood almost shot out of my eyes. It seems that if you're eligible for Food Stamps, Welfare or other Government Low Income assist programs, you qualify for a "free" cell phone as well.
Does the cell phone only dial out to potential employers? Is there a function on there that helps your ass find a job? If not, WHY THE F*** do you need a cell phone in the first place?
I'm so sick of these programs for deadbeats. Even if you work ONE minimum wage job for 40 hours a week, you end up earning $15,080 a year. The poverty level is at 10 grand right now. Man the f*** up and work hard if you want to own things, but get your fu**ing hand out of my pocket stealing my money so you can sit on your ass and watch Judge Judy all day. I've had it. :mad:"Don't vote. It only encourages the bastards." -PJ O'Roarke
04-27-2009, 04:39 PM
yeah this has been going on since about obama's inaugaration.
FWIW, the user only gets soemthing like 42 minutes/month. and its tracfone. have you ever seen their phones? don't get me wrong, its still wrong, but its not like they're getting unlimited minutes on a blackberry from verizon."People should not fear their governments; governments should fear their people."
04-27-2009, 05:14 PM"If every poor man is to come here and start requesting money for all his children, the applicants will never be satisfied and the nation's finances will collapse." Emperor Tiberius: Tacitus:Annals
04-27-2009, 07:32 PM
- Join Date
- Mar 2009
- Redondo Beach, CA
If you read the article (carefully) they only thing they're really getting for free is 68 minutes.
The SafeLink Wireless service will provide eligible low-income households a free
cell phone, mobile access to emergency services and free 68 minutes of air time,
monthly, for one year. The cell phone offers in-demand features: voicemail,
text, call waiting, international calling to over 60 destinations and caller ID.
Don't you know someone who has been laid off in the last year through no fault of their own? Are they all lazy deadbeats?
Providing a cheap cell phone some limited service cost nothing--this sounds like a pretty cost effective way of not allowing people to become a disenfranchised liability. Regular phone service in Manhattan is ridiculously expensive. If you're out of work, you're on your cell to set up interviews. If you can't afford a cell--then you're on your feet.
People hear 'welfare' and 'government sponsored' and they picture santa clause/robin hood dancing through the ghetto spreading your tax dollars about willy nilly. Have you ever been to an NYC public assistance office? No one's handing anything out, unless you meet the eligibility requirements.
The economic principle behind a program like this is complicated, but essentially, it costs almost nothing to give some a cell phone and some free service so that they can stay connected with society and hopefully weather the economic storm and eventually get back on their feet. This is cheap compared to what is costs to have police come to your house and arrest someone for trying to rob you. Then send child services to his house to pick up his kids and put them in a foster home. Then put him in jail and feed him. Crime is expensive for everyone.
On the surface, this sounds like a good program -- IMO.
Also, if low income families can't afford a phone and therefore can't call emergencies services when their children are in need--that's wrong.
04-27-2009, 08:06 PM
"No one pays for a cell phone."
I've paid for every cell phone I've ever had. I'd rather pay a small fee than "get it for free" and be required to extend my service contract.
"If you read the article (carefully) they only thing they're really getting for free is 68 minutes."
That 68 minutes isn't "free", it's paid for with taxpayer money.
"Don't you know someone who has been laid off in the last year through no fault of their own? Are they all lazy deadbeats?"
Don't play this "I can't find work" bullcrap. I see Help Wanted signs at stores all over and I live in freakin' Hawaii. Does it suck to work a McJob? Yeah, it does. But if it's what you gotta do to survive, you do it. If you have to work 80 hours a week to pay for all your outrageous bills, then do it. I have.
"If low income families can't afford a phone and therefore can't call emergencies services when their children are in need--that's wrong."
Most phone companies offer plans as cheap as 29 bucks a month. I refuse to believe there are millions of people who need the Government to provide something that they can get for less than the cost of a carton of smokes.
Last edited by marinejcksn; 04-27-2009 at 08:10 PM."Don't vote. It only encourages the bastards." -PJ O'Roarke
04-27-2009, 09:25 PM
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
04-27-2009, 09:35 PM
I could pull a piece of shit cell phone from my drawer right now that hasn't been used in 4 years and, provided it can be charged, dial 911.. That's the only justifiable thing those deadbeats need a cell phone for. Any cell phone will dial 911, whether it has minutes left, or not. They don't need new free cell phones.. There are plenty of people upgrading every day that donate their old cell phones to charity. Let them have those phones with no free minutes and, voila!, you've got a phone for emergencies!!
Again, the Obots are proving that they don't hold hard working people in very high esteem. They'd rather feel sorry for the person who got too fat to work or had too many kids and now day care would be too expensive to work a minimum wage job... They're all about, "Fairness.." Why should I have a cell phone while others on welfare don't? That's just not fair! (Even though we pay over $100 per month for our family plan..)Obama-if you're being run out of town, get out in front and pretend that it's a parade!!!
04-28-2009, 09:59 AM
Is this part of a job assistance program? I could see why it would be useful in a situation like that-the client needs to have reliable communication to talk to prospective employers.
I never worked in the welfare end of things, but I do know that the former ADC program only paid for a phone if someone in the household had medical conditions that could be deadly if the person was unable to call for assistance. Even then, the program only covered local service.
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