The 97%'ers

**Bubba Dawg** · 05-05-2009, 10:52 PM

Does anyone remember the Widow's Mite?

The poor widow gave out of her poverty, i.e., when it hurt..... while the wealthy pharisee gave much more in its raw amount but it was out of his wealth and ease.

And it was the Widow who actually gave more.

If the highest 'producers' cease to value the contribution of those of lesser stature, then at some point, those 'mites' may cease to be given.

Somehow I think that this would make a difference, even to the wealthy and powerful.

**Rockntractor** · 05-05-2009, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg

Does anyone remember the Widow's Mite?

The poor widow gave out of her poverty, i.e., when it hurt..... while the wealthy pharisee gave much more in its raw amount but it was out of his wealth and ease.

And it was the Widow who actually gave more.

If the highest 'producers' cease to value the contribution of those of lesser stature, then at some point, those 'mites' may cease to be given.

Somehow I think that this would make a difference, even to the wealthy and powerful.

You are very wise for a young guy.

**Constitutionally Speaking** · 05-05-2009, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Water Closet

marinejcksn,

You're missing my point a bit. First, the statistic I was referring to was, in 2006, the top 5% (threshold only $153k) paid 60% of federal taxes (see here). This, or a similar statistic, is often recited by outraged conservatives who make $50k a year. My point is that to whine so loudly, shouldn't you have some real skin in the game?

This is not constitutional but I have often thought that if you are not paying any income tax, you should not be able to vote on issues or for people that will raise the taxes of other people. There HAS to be a way of preventing people with nothing to lose and everything to gain from saddling those with little to gain and everything to lose with higher taxes.

As to your earlier point, as long as you are working and supporting yourself, you are not mooching.

**Bubba Dawg** · 05-05-2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Rockntractor

You are very wise for a young guy.

Thanks. But when I was born, D. Eisenhower was president. :D

But I feel young at heart. :)

**Water Closet** · 05-05-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking

This is not constitutional but I have often thought that if you are not paying any income tax, you should not be able to vote on issues or for people that will raise the taxes of other people. There HAS to be a way of preventing people with nothing to lose and everything to gain from saddling those with little to gain and everything to lose with higher taxes.

As to your earlier point, as long as you are working and supporting yourself, you are not mooching.

Perhaps, but if you (generic) pay $5k in federal taxes and some proportional amount in sales tax, while I (generic) pay $80k in federal taxes and some proporational amount in sales taxes, don't I have just as much right to regard you (generic) as a moocher as you (generic) regard that person that pays nothing in federal taxes as a moocher?

**Water Closet** · 05-05-2009, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg

Thanks. But when I was born, D. Eisenhower was president. :D

But I feel young at heart. :)

Hey! When I was born, Harry S. Truman was president!!! And I still feel young somewhere down there around my heart, perhaps a little lower...:D

**Rockntractor** · 05-05-2009, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg

Thanks. But when I was born, D. Eisenhower was president. :D

But I feel young at heart. :)

So was I.

**Bubba Dawg** · 05-05-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rockntractor

So was I.

Ah, then you and I and WC are all a part of the youth movement! :D

Teach...your parents well.......

**patriot45** · 05-05-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking

This is not constitutional but I have often thought that if you are not paying any income tax, you should not be able to vote on issues or for people that will raise the taxes of other people. There HAS to be a way of preventing people with nothing to lose and everything to gain from saddling those with little to gain and everything to lose with higher taxes.

As to your earlier point, as long as you are working and supporting yourself, you are not mooching.

Thanks, that is a perfect point! The posts he is referring to I mentioned the tipping point, a very real thing.
There has to be a better way of keeping the "moochers" from taking from the working class.

Working class, not the elite, WCCW!

As an aside, if you can't spell your name and need an acorn to do it for you, your vote shouldn't count.