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06-21-2009, 10:22 PM
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...whatever, boys.You determine how the conversation goes. Keep it clean, and you'll get nothing but honest discussion. Start flaming, and it's party time. :D
SonnabendGuest06-22-2009, 08:54 AMthere is no such thing as an innocent man.
Y'know, I'm an Aussie, and it astounds me that you have forgotten this. Don't you read your own Constitution?
And I refer to:
U.S. Constitution: Fourteenth Amendment
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
SonnabendGuest06-22-2009, 09:06 AM
If it will help, I can discuss Miranda / Escobedo with you sometime...y'know,that pesky law that says a cop has to read you your rights after they arrest you?
Lemme know, I love teaching civics.
Seems like you missed that course in HS. Pity.
06-22-2009, 10:17 AM
What a joke
The Rev. Al Sharpton on Friday called for opponents of an Arizona sheriff who has aggressively cracked down on illegal immigration to videotape alleged racial profiling by the sheriff's office.
: “Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal.”
” I wondered why the rock was getting larger. Then it hit me.
SonnabendGuest06-22-2009, 07:15 PMYou are in luck, you just got the mighty race baiter, who is a proven liar on your side.
Care to comment on Policon's little homily? Sounds like some of you dont really think the Constitution applies to everyone.
there is no such thing as an innocent man.
06-22-2009, 07:23 PM
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SonnabendGuest06-22-2009, 07:30 PMSo, since you know so much...
When are the indictments coming down for Joe????
Arpaio..Obama.....it's the same thing,. Enough credulous fools and drooling fanbois to elect him...and then turn a blind eye to what they represent and what they have done.
Y'see, where I live, the prisons are run by the government and if there were 117 deaths in ONE prison?....there'd be whats called a Royal Commission and heads would roll.
And people facing jail for murder, malfeasance and a host of other charges.
But please, keep licking Joe's ass. It's amusing for me to see you do what you decry in the media concerning Obama, I guess history does repeat itself.
You Americans prate on about how great the US is and how well the system works...but in an Australian prison, a m,an arrested will face court...not a coroner. We kinda like the idea of the people in jail living loing enough to finish their sentences...so do their families.
I guess in this area, we Aussies have the better solution. Last time I checked, shoplifting didnt merit the death penalty.
"There is no such thing as an innocent man"
My my.....how revealing...
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06-22-2009, 07:48 PMHoover man to serve one year in prison for wife's honeymoon death
Victim's family calls court's decision 'ludicrous'
By Cassandra Mickens (Contact) | Shelby County Reporter
Published Friday, June 5, 2009
The Hoover man who pleaded guilty to the manslaughter of his wife during their 2003 honeymoon in Australia will serve one year in prison.
Gabe Watson, 32, was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in prison in Brisbane Supreme Court on Friday. However, Justice Peter Lyons ordered Watson’s sentence be suspended after he has served 12 months, according to the Australian newspaper Brisbane Times.
Brisbane Times also reports Watson will be deported immediately upon his release from an Australian jail.
While in court, Watson, a certified rescue diver, admitted he failed to fulfill his responsibilities as his wife’s dive buddy during a scuba diving expedition on the Great Barrier Reef, Brisbane Times said.
Prosecutors believed Watson murdered Christina “Tina” Thomas Watson of Helena on Oct. 22, 2003, just 11 days after their wedding. An Australian coroner last year ruled Watson should be charged with Christina’s murder, alleging Watson cut off Christina’s air supply.
Watson voluntarily returned to Australia on May 12 to stand trial. He was arrested by authorities at Brisbane International Airport and jailed.
Outside the courtroom, Tommy Thomas, Christina’s father, Amanda Thomas, Christina’s sister, and friend Amanda Phillips called the court’s decision “ludicrous.
We all know how tough on crime Australia is. 1 year for murdering his wife. Makes you proud doesn't it?
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06-22-2009, 09:10 PM
You have to remember that they did start off as a penal colony - so of course their sympathies are going to rest with the criminally bent . . . .They have to defend their own! ;)Stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
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