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    Everything I am about to write is a true story about the 4th of July this weekend and

    for each member who supports war to think about.

    My profile shows that I am a wife of a combat VN vet who never does very well on

    the 4th probably more than any other holiday. He will pretty much stay in our bedroom

    and reads, mostly the bible. We always go to see the fireworks however, for the kids.

    The bombs bursting in air? This year was a little different. My husband will almost cry when he

    hears the loud bomb like thunderous explostions in the sky, but he holds the hand of our little

    ones

    and points to the sky. This year it was our little 3 year old that we are raising that put her

    hands over her ears and said, "I don't like it Mom." It's too loud. I'm afraid. She has been going

    to the fireworks show since she was born but this year, getting out of the baby baby stage, She

    actually listens to sounds and observes the sights in life.

    We discovered she didn't like it. At all.

    She said, " i don't like it. I don't like it. It makes me afraid. We brought her home and was

    getting her ready for bed, she clung to me as a few firecrackers were still going off next

    doot that sounded like gunshots. I mind wandered to the Middle East and every war we have

    fought. I thought, My goodness, the children. Those precious children.

    I thought of Shock and Awe and how the babies, the toddlers had no idea of the thunderous

    sounds and the lights that lit up the sky. Only there was real danger. Those were not replicas

    of bombs bursting in air, those were real bombs. As she clung to me tighter I sat her in my lap

    and rocked her gently. I closed my eyes and sung a lullaby as she drifted off to sleep, making

    a promise to her, if she didn't like that loud noise, we wouldn't go see any more fireworks till

    she wanted to. I kept rocking and she laid silently to my breast. I heard my husband strumming

    his guitar from the other room. It was a hymnal. I then thought of the soldier from past to

    present. I thought of the pain the solider endures on return from war scarred forever with

    startle reaction and PTSD. I thought of the thorn in their head they live with and especially

    the reminder of destruction with bombs bursting in air and then looking over at the children

    thinking.....we must leave war behind. I thought of the Iraqi Mother who could not tell her

    child, there would be no more explosions in the air. I thought of the soldier

    who will become a veteran and cannot hide from the horrors of the war

    and it will torment him or her throughtout

    their lives. I thought of the argument of We have to fight there to keep from fighting here.

    Does that make it right? No. Those children of Iraq are scarred for life. Those veterans

    are scarred for life. Those veterans who have been diagnosed with PTSD will never again

    enjoy but endure a fireworks show, and the children if they survive will be happy to hear

    as our little three year old granddaughter said, "Peace and Quite". No thunder booms in the air.

    War is a such a waste and I thought of the bible verse, What does it profit a man if he

    gain the world and lose his soul?

    My heart goes out to the veterans and we will always have war but it is so sad and
    we need to go to war as a last resort.
    Now, no one in their right mind can say I don't support our troops but there is no
    doubt in my mind that the war in Iraq needs to end.
    God Bless.
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    You are the gloomiest person I have ever met on the Internet. You make the 4th of July into a day of mourning.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aAU1XE8MQk

    GEN Dave Petraeus re-enlists 1,215 US soldiers at Al Faw Palace, Baghdad. July 4, 2008.

    Sort of puts the typical fireworks display and barbecue to shame. If this brings neither a tear to your eye or causes a bit of a tingle to run up your spine you need to rethink what today is about.
    http://www.redstate.com/stories/war/...dependence_day

    I really think you are at the wrong site.
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    I have to agree with Library Lady. Your husband is the vet, quit already, trying to be the vet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teetop View Post
    I have to agree with Library Lady. Your husband is the vet, quit already, trying to be the vet.
    And yet if more of us tried to step into the shoes of the vet, perhaps our vets would receive the care and compassion that they deserve. We all have a different life experience that leads to our beliefs. Why can't you let Vetwife have hers?

    I want the war in Iraq to end as well, as I think we all do. We all just have different views of the point at which we believe it is appropriate to end it. Currently, I don't think our job is finished. And I fear that if we don't finish it, it is our children that will have the fear of the bombs bursting in air, rather than a celebrations of the night those bombs meant our freedom over 200 years ago.

    Let her have her voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
    Let her have her voice.

    She has her voice but I think she is not the typical vetwife. My whole family has been military, all ranks and lengths of service, in wartime and peacetime and NONE of them are that miserable.

    Funny, three of my cousins just enlisted. I hadn't thought about it but I guess they had a pretty good idea of what they are getting into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibraryLady View Post
    She has her voice but I think she is not the typical vetwife. My whole family has been military, all ranks and lengths of service, in wartime and peacetime and NONE of them are that miserable.

    Funny, three of my cousins just enlisted. I hadn't thought about it but I guess they had a pretty good idea of what they are getting into.
    I'm certain that Vetwife's Husband's situation may make her different from what some may consider the "typical" vet wife.

    A few years ago I saw an interview on Veteran's day with a WWII vet. It was just a quick interview as part of the parade coverage. He broke down in tears talking about his experience during the war. It broke my heart. Everyone's service experience is different, and therefore their families are affected differently.

    I'm sure this is an emotional time for a lot of people and I don't see the point of belittling Vetwife's feelings merely because they may not be your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
    Let her have her voice.
    She has her morbid voice, as it is.

    I am a vet, I don't go around shoving it in everyone's face. Especially in a manner that is so morbid.

    That's just me....

    *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
    I'm certain that Vetwife's Husband's situation may make her different from what some may consider the "typical" vet wife.

    A few years ago I saw an interview on Veteran's day with a WWII vet. It was just a quick interview as part of the parade coverage. He broke down in tears talking about his experience during the war. It broke my heart. Everyone's service experience is different, and therefore their families are affected differently.

    I'm sure this is an emotional time for a lot of people and I don't see the point of belittling Vetwife's feelings merely because they may not be your own.
    Belittling? No, it's not belittling her at all.

    But, why not have a happy story instead of something morbid, such as Library Lady's post #2?

    I was in Germany in '82 to '84, my life expectancy was 30 mins if the nuclear ball was kicked off. The six sorties I "stripped out" would have killed over 100 million people. Think all of that bothers me? Hell no! I had a job to do and I did it. If I happen to die in the process of any war, so be it.

    I will tell you one thing, if anyone invades the US. They better worry more about us vets and gun owners than the US military
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    DU must love her posts about the terrible military, horrible treatment, screwed up vets and all the anti-war/pro Obama crap.

    I think she's becomming Mrs. Murtha.

    JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teetop View Post
    Belittling? No, it's not belittling her at all.

    But, why not have a happy story instead of something morbid, such as Library Lady's post #2?

    I was in Germany in '82 to '84, my life expectancy was 30 mins if the nuclear ball was kicked off. The six sorties I "stripped out" would have killed over 100 million people. Think all of that bothers me? Hell no! I had a job to do and I did it. If I happen to die in the process of any war, so be it.

    I will tell you one thing, if anyone invades the US. They better worry more about us vets and gun owners than the US military
    I thank you for your service and am certainly glad that you came out of your experience with a very healthy outcome, as do many (most?) of our veterans. For those for whom the outcome isn't so positive, and their families, I try to give my compassion.

    It would be wonderful of Vetwife had a happy story of yesterday. Unfortunately, hers was a mixed bag. That is life and certainly worth consideration for all of us. Life isn't always wine and roses.

    As for the threat to invaders, while I think our military would certainly kick their asses, the veterans and gun owners would certainly do their part as well. It's one of the reasons that, while I don't own a gun, I certainly support making certain that the law allows me to.
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