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  1. #1 This is bad 
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    Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-09-09 05:23 PM
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    Now that right-wing DU'ers can "unrecommend" threads off the greatest page
    Will we have any discussions that still matter anymore?

    What posts will even survive?

    Will DU be worth having if views the conservative wing of DU'ers(and it simply isn't possible that progressives could support this)are going to be blocked from the Greatest Page?

    And why do those people so fear free speech?
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    There is a new button in DUmmy land the much hated unrecommend. They are behaving like an ant hill that you just pee'd on.
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    Will we have any discussions that still matter anymore?
    Did you ever?

    No....
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    redqueen (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-09-09 05:34 PM
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    21. Unrecing threads doesn't supress debate.
    Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 05:38 PM by redqueen
    I think the unrec feature is democratic, so... yeah, I think there's a way for progressives to support it.
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    Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-09-09 05:42 PM
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    27. How can reducing the number of people who sees the thread be democratic or progressive?
    And if forcing a thread off the Greatest page isn't about reducing the number of people who see and participate in it, that what other possible point could there be to doing this?

    "unrecommend" causes trouble and hard feelings to no good end.
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    Am I the only one who never looks on the greatest page for discussion? I just roam the threads. I don't go there often, but that's what I do when I do go. It's just the old fashioned lurking.
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    Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-09-09 06:12 PM
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    59. If threads can be blocked from the Greatest Page because some just don't like their ideas
    We can assume that no discussion on that page will ever be of any real value again. Threads that only reflect "majority" opinion(and it's a teensy, weensy bit arrogant to assume that the people who want to "unrec" are somehow the oppressed "Silent Majority" of DU)
    are not going to be discussions. They will be, by definition, bland and meaningless, thus pointless.

    Every idea that ever mattered in human history, including every GOOD idea, was considered offensive by someone. And some of those "someones" did everything they could to keep that "offensive" idea from wider circulation. If DU becomes a "majority makes right" place, it will cease to be a place where anything is said that could actually matter.

    We don't need to become Sycophancy Underground.
    I didn't Know a greatest thread page existed until today. These people need to find some meaning in their lives!
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  6. #6 The decree from the king 
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    Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-09-09 11:35 AM
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    We are introducing a new DU feature that people have been requesting for a long time. (EDITED)
    Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 01:46 PM by Skinner
    We have finally upgraded the DU Recommend function to allow people to "Unrecommend" as well.

    Why Are We Adding This Functionality?

    If you have spent any time on DU, you have probably noticed that under our old system -- which only permitted positive recommendations -- there was a tendency for highly polarizing topics to climb to the top of the Greatest Page. We believe that giving members the option to unrecommend topics will help insure that the threads at the top of the Greatest Page are those threads that have the broadest appeal to our members.

    We do not expect that this will be a huge change for DU. But we do hope that it will put a little more emphasis on the topics that unite us, instead of those that divide us. Of course, you are still free to post discussion threads on highly polarizing topics. You just won't get the positive reinforcement of seeing them at the top of the Greatest Page.

    How It Works

    If you look in the bottom left corner of any discussion thread, you should see something like this:

    Recommend 0 votes Unrecommend

    I think this is probably fairly self-explanatory. You click the "Recommend" link if you want to positively recommend a thread, and you click the "Unrecommend" link if you want to register your disapproval. The number tells you the thread's net score (calculated by subtracting unrecommendations from recommendations). A positive score indicates that the number of recommendations is greater than the number of unrecommenndations.

    As part of this upgrade, you will now see your vote added instantaneously when you click either "Recommend" or "Unrecommend". You won't be taken to a new page after casting a vote, and you won't have to click the back button to return to the thread. (Note that you will need to have Javascript enabled in your Web browser in order to use the system.)

    When a thread gets a net score of +5 it appears on the Greatest Page. The thread posted in the previous 24 hours that has the highest net score is listed at the top of the Greatest Page. (If a thread's net score falls below +5, it will disappear from the Greatest Page, but if its net score returns to +5 it will re-appear in the same spot it held previously.)

    If a thread's net score falls below 0, it will appear as "<0". You can continue to recommend or unrecommend these threads, and your vote will be tallied. But if the net score remains below zero, it will continue to simply show as <0. We decided to do this because the purpose of permitting unrecommendations is to improve the content of the DU Greatest page -- it is not necessary to show extreme negative scores in order to achieve that goal.

    Comments And Bug Reports

    We understand that there are some potential downsides to this change, as there are to any change. We are going to closely monitor this new system, to make certain that it actually does what it is intended to do, and to ensure that it makes DU better for most of our members. We welcome your feedback about this new system, and while we understand that there are likely to be a number of threads about the new system over the next few days, we hope you will post any comments or bug reports in this thread.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding as we implement this change. And thank you for being a part of this community.

    Skinner, EarlG, and Elad
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    ON EDIT: We have decided to remove the total number of votes, and only show the net score. It was apparent that showing the total number of votes was confusing to readers. It made it appear that you could simply subtract the net score from the total votes to get the number of unrecommendations, which was NOT correct. I apologize for the confusion.
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    I know this place exists because of that place - but I can't stomach going there.
    Stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I know this place exists because of that place - but I can't stomach going there.
    It's realy bad when you first see the posts. You are filled with disbelief and anger. Then you resign yourself to the reality that life will soon be over on this planet. They rule us now. There is nowhere to run or hide!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    It's realy bad when you first see the posts. You are filled with disbelief and anger. Then you resign yourself to the reality that life will soon be over on this planet. They rule us now. There is nowhere to run or hide!
    Thank you but I prefer not to despair. No matter how terrible things are I know that God is still on his throne and I am still beloved to him.
    Stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    Thank you but I prefer not to despair. No matter how terrible things are I know that God is still on his throne and I am still beloved to him.
    I need to remind myself of that daily that is why I just posted the picture of my grand nieces 2nd birthday party.
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