07-11-2008, 11:41 PM
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I believe that Paul referenced it in his epistles and many of those where written long before Mary died. Some of the earliest copies of Paul's writing date to about 20 to 30 years after the death of Christ. Mary was probably about 48 to 50 when Christ was crucified. Also it is believed that James, the brother of Jesus, was a older half sibling who was alive for the birth, death and ressurection of Jesus. He was martyred for his teaching of Christ's birth, death and resurrection. How likely do you think it is that he would have gone to his death lying about something that he knew the truth of?
Last edited by FlaGator; 07-11-2008 at 11:46 PM.“I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more.”
God judged it better to bring good out of evil than to suffer no evil to exist.
St. Augustine of Hippo
07-12-2008, 10:52 AM
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Night Owl said that words alone are insufficient to prove a fact. This is absurdity to the extreme. Most people do not doubt the existence of the Roman Empire, the proof of which is solely based on words. The fact of Jesus' immaculate conception has been independently verified by various sources. The fact that they were compiled into the Bible does not negate their value.
Historical writings of Jesus' immaculate conception don't exist outside of religious writings, because those that were witness to God's work became his servants and preached the truth of Jesus Christ.
07-12-2008, 11:28 AM
You guys did not listen to me the three times I told you to keep this particular thread on track so I'm locking it. If you want to discuss theology or prophecy or pre-trib/post-trib Dispensationalism that's fine with me but you have to put REL in the title line, keep fairly strictly on topic, and be respectful.
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