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    Pelosi vows to rein in Democrats on healthcare


    Washington -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) vowed Sunday to overcome lingering obstacles and pass healthcare reform in the House, restoring momentum to President Obama's top domestic priority and order to her own unruly Democratic caucus.

    "When I take this bill to the floor, it will win," Pelosi said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” "This will happen."

    The speaker, who has struggled to overcome a series of recent setbacks, raised the stakes by planning to restart talks today among bickering Democrats on the Energy and Commerce Committee, one of three House panels with jurisdiction over healthcare and where the bill stalled last week. Democratic leaders are newly confident that the differences can be resolved, possibly in time to bring a House bill to the floor before lawmakers depart Friday for the August recess, although Pelosi did not commit to a timetable.
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    The chaos underscores the difficulty of transforming a major sector of the U.S. economy in a single piece of legislation, and the perils of rushing Obama's first-term priorities through Congress before concerns about the 2010 midterm elections take hold.
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    "What we don't want is for the process to bog down here," said senior White House advisor David Axelrod, also on CNN's "State of the Union." "We want to keep moving forward, and I believe we will."
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    Although the Senate will not vote on its plan until after Labor Day, a Senate Finance Committee deal this week would reassure several dozen anxious House Democrats who are wary of the more liberal course their leaders have taken on healthcare. Feeling burned by a tough vote on climate change legislation that is languishing in the Senate, these House Democrats sparked an uprising last week that Pelosi is struggling to contain.
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    A healthcare victory in the House this week would be a stirring moment for Obama and allow more breathing room for the Senate, where finance negotiators are trying to write a bipartisan bill that must be melded with a separate health committee version. A defeat would be a devastating setback for Obama and Pelosi. Regardless of the outcome, rank-and-file Democrats are bracing for an intense August at home as their constituents are hit with a wave of advertising from business groups opposed to the legislation and liberal interest groups supporting it.
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    "I think the people are shellshocked," said Rep. Michael Arcuri (D-N.Y.), citing the $700-billion financial bailout, the $787-billion economic recovery package, climate change legislation and other major bills. "So much is happening so quickly that what is happening is people are blending it all together."
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    The House and Senate are working on proposals that would expand coverage to up to 50 million people over the next 10 years, at a cost of about $1 trillion.



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    Pisslosi can do all the arm twisting she wants but it comes down to whether the Blue Dog Democrats think that it will be political suicide to vote for this health care monstrosity or not. If they feel the heat from their constituency, they will vote against it. In a matter of 6 to 9 months, the House members and their opponents will start campaigning and incumbents sure as shooting do not want to become 1 term wonders. So, I am hoping that this bill goes down to defeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Pisslosi can do all the arm twisting she wants but it comes down to whether the Blue Dog Democrats think that it will be political suicide to vote for this health care monstrosity or not. If they feel the heat from their constituency, they will vote against it. In a matter of 6 to 9 months, the House members and their opponents will start campaigning and incumbents sure as shooting do not want to become 1 term wonders. So, I am hoping that this bill goes down to defeat.
    Rahm Emanuel is sure to be sitting in these meetings going on around the clock bending their arms and swearing his filthy ass off at them .He hopes to terrorize them into accepting the bill but if they fear for their political lives they will balk at It.Pelosi has her instructions from Soros and company and will demote and punish all who resist her leadership.

    These are tough times to be a member of the house of Representatives.

    Emanuel is the guy to watch.He runs the White House and has control over half of the American government .
    The magic phrase in the house these days is 'Rahm wants this ' and they all run scared.The real power behind the throne is Soros and his money bags .Rahm is Soros's point man in the White House on hand to keep the Magic Negro on the right path .
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Pisslosi can do all the arm twisting she wants but it comes down to whether the Blue Dog Democrats think that it will be political suicide to vote for this health care monstrosity or not..
    Kinda true.

    It IS the blue dogs who are the problem, but not in the house. Pelosi is right, the bill will pass the house, no problem.

    In the senate it will be closer, but all we need is 50 votes. Conrads committee's bill will not have a public option, but it will have to merge with the other senate bill that DOES have a public option, and then that bill will have to merge with the house bill.

    The numbers demand that it have a public option.

    In the end, the bill WILL pass with a strong public option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satanica View Post
    Kinda true.

    It IS the blue dogs who are the problem, but not in the house. Pelosi is right, the bill will pass the house, no problem.

    In the senate it will be closer, but all we need is 50 votes. Conrads committee's bill will not have a public option, but it will have to merge with the other senate bill that DOES have a public option, and then that bill will have to merge with the house bill.

    The numbers demand that it have a public option.

    In the end, the bill WILL pass with a strong public option.
    I demand to know what your two products are and if they are making enough money for you to live well then why are you ,isreporting your income and collecting unemployment?
    One does not greet death when he knocks at your door.

    Nay you repeatedly punch him in the throat as he slowly drags you away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satanica View Post
    Kinda true.

    It IS the blue dogs who are the problem, but not in the house. Pelosi is right, the bill will pass the house, no problem.

    In the senate it will be closer, but all we need is 50 votes. Conrads committee's bill will not have a public option, but it will have to merge with the other senate bill that DOES have a public option, and then that bill will have to merge with the house bill.

    The numbers demand that it have a public option.

    In the end, the bill WILL pass with a strong public option.
    Not meaning to be a bore satty but what are your two products? You need to answer old bussiness before you start new!
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    Doesn't it take 51 votes to pass something in the senate?

    Or am I missing something? Did they lower the number of senators to 98?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgrooms View Post
    Doesn't it take 51 votes to pass something in the senate?

    Or am I missing something? Did they lower the number of senators to 98?
    Nope, still two per !
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    Ok...thought that was still the case.

    Although in today's America, you can't be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satanica View Post
    Kinda true.

    It IS the blue dogs who are the problem, but not in the house. Pelosi is right, the bill will pass the house, no problem.

    In the senate it will be closer, but all we need is 50 votes. Conrads committee's bill will not have a public option, but it will have to merge with the other senate bill that DOES have a public option, and then that bill will have to merge with the house bill.

    The numbers demand that it have a public option.

    In the end, the bill WILL pass with a strong public option.
    It will take 60 votes in the Senate to over-ride a Repub. filibuster. It might not even get that far. BTW, who are the blue dog Democratic Senators? You are confused
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