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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    ...............Try over a DECADE ago. ..............

    nice deflection
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    Quote Originally Posted by PALEOCON View Post
    nice deflection
    Supercrash preaching about others deflecting. That's golden.
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    13 years ago is not a "few"

    And I am still to see one skerrick of proof to back this up.

    Well?
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    Pardon me but...I might not be a died-in-the-wool "birther" but I also see nothing wrong with asking why the President will not produce a valid birth certificate.

    McCain was investigated during the campaign for the same reason.
    Why is it wrong to ask about Obama?

    I take issue with anyone who thinks it's ok that WE have to produce a birth certificate when we need to get a driver's license, but a man who's going to be elected to the highest office in the land shouldn't produce his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talismen View Post
    Pardon me but...I might not be a died-in-the-wool "birther" but I also see nothing wrong with asking why the President will not produce a valid birth certificate.

    McCain was investigated during the campaign for the same reason.
    Why is it wrong to ask about Obama?

    I take issue with anyone who thinks it's ok that WE have to produce a birth certificate when we need to get a driver's license, but a man who's going to be elected to the highest office in the land shouldn't produce his.
    We have conservatives that will argue you in a circle as to why he should not have to produce one. I call it the" I'm a conservative butt sydrome".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talismen View Post
    Pardon me but...I might not be a died-in-the-wool "birther" but I also see nothing wrong with asking why the President will not produce a valid birth certificate.
    How do you know he didn't? The parties have a vetting process, and presumably he verified data to those who needed to know.
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    Presumption has always worked for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    How do you know he didn't? The parties have a vetting process, and presumably he verified data to those who needed to know.
    'Those who needed to know'

    Are you fucking serious?
    The public needs to know, because THEY are the ones who vote. THEY are the ones who decide.

    Party leadership doesn't run this country...We do.
    It's time we get off our ass and remember that.
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    Then tell me when it has ever been a public disclosure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Then tell me when it has ever been a public disclosure.
    To my knowledge, it hasn't. But, that's because there's never been a question as to where a candidate was born. There was plenty of factual evidence to prove it.

    In John McCain's case, his birthplace was looked into due to being born where he was born.
    And although I voted for the man, if I had found out before hand that he wasn't eligible according to the constitution, I wouldn't have voted for him.

    The constitution oulines the parameters.
    WE are in charge. WE decide who gets 'hired" and who doesn't. Not party leadership.
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