Thread: You won't believe this
#1 You won't believe this07-16-2008, 08:21 PM
This is a snip from an article posted by CBS on Oct 8, 2003
(CBS) At this moment, three Americans are being held hostage under heavy guard in the jungles of Colombia, hoping for a miracle.
Their story is probably one you don't know much about. But after hearing from them, it is one you will never forget.
They are hostages of a narco-terrorist group known as FARC, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia -- guerrillas with a violent history and a penchant for holding kidnap victims for years, and then, often, killing them.
Was anyone watching CNN around 5 today? Blitzer and the SOB, Cafferty, had been kissing Obama's ass while attacking McCain any way they could. That was no surprise but then Blitzer blew me away. He reported that Columbia's military committed a war crime in the rescue of all those hostages. It seems one of the rescuers had a red cross insignia somewhere on his shirt. I'm not sure of the location.
How in God's name did we get here?Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
07-16-2008, 08:38 PM--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
07-16-2008, 08:56 PMBetter to die on your feet than live on your knees.
07-16-2008, 10:32 PM
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It's the bitch-gene.
It's a human trait. Many people must have something to bitch about. In truly bad times, the "bad" is obvious, and most bitch in concert. There is a clear target for the bitching. Example: During an all out war, people react to where the bombs are raining down. There's minimal interest in the welfare of the spotted owl, second-hand smoke, the color of your neighbor's roof, or how a classic nursery rhyme is poisoning a child's mind. The bombs are real and immediate problems. Lesser problems are targeted as day-to-day life improves, and the bitch-targets become less a majority view. As life keeps getting better, the bitch-targets become more absurd. Since there's less of substance to bitch about, people with over developed bitch-genes become horribly offended about pure bullshit. And, other bitch-deprived lost souls latch onto a cause, almost any cause, so they can satisfy their bitch-itch.
Last edited by 3rd-try; 07-16-2008 at 10:34 PM.
07-17-2008, 06:59 AM
Columbia is a friend of the United States and has a good relationship with President Bush.
FARC is a socialist group supported by Hugo Chavez.
Nothing else need be said.
07-17-2008, 09:11 AM
And the Chavez lovers at DU are defending FARC.This is bigger than presidential politics. This is a battle for America.
noonwitchGuest07-17-2008, 09:52 AM
I know, I saw that. They blame the hostages. They do the same with the Iranian revolutionaries who held the diplomats hostage in the late 70s, and blamed America, whose president at the time was the most revered Jimmy Carter.
I found this out last week, when I told another poster that it was okay to think McCain's comment about tobacco imports and Iran was funny, even if it was tasteless. I was accused of "buying into the anti-Iran propaganda", at the very least. Also, there were strong sentiments against the late Shah expressed. I don't really know enough to defend the Shah, but I do know my dentist, who was born in Iran in a christian family, left the country long before the revolution because her father wanted his daughters to be educated and have a chance at a real life. She said to me once, "You know, they keep saying that the Taliban and al Queda are radical islam. There is no such thing as radical islam, it's all that way". Her sister, who is one of the hygenists, disagreed-she has been back to visit relatives, some of whom are muslims, and she says that there are a lot of people, muslims included, who want to have a normal country, trade with the west, and a secular government.
But whatever, technically, the Shah was our ally, even if he may have had some ruthless qualities. Even if you blame Carter for how he handled the hostage crisis, his decision to allow the Shah to receive medical treatment in the US was an act of mercy toward a dying man who had been an ally. That doesn't justify taking hostages and demanding that said dying man be turned over to an angry mob in order for those hostages to be released. The ironies of the Carter-loving, anti-death penalty mob taking this position are just amazing to me.
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noonwitchGuest07-18-2008, 09:48 AM
I am a liberal and mostly a democrat, but I can't stand it when 1. people can't think for themselves and 2. the way people on the left are blind about Islam and the way women, in particular, are treated in nations with Islamic governments.
Nothing is ever a simple, cut and dry issue. Most of the posters at DU only see things through a narrow perspective, like the Freepers do, just on the left. It's like the way they deleted my posts saying that I thought transexualism was a form of self-mutiliation. I made it clear that I didn't believe in discriminating against or mistreating transexuals, I just had an opinion, is all. But, when you do consider that many of them are "back to nature" hippies and all, it is a little hypocritical to support the side of radical surgery to alter the body you were born with. When a person gets the sex change surgeries (because it is not a one-time operation), he or she faces a lifetime of surgery to maintain it, and synthetic hormone treatments to enhance it. The body will never be what he or she really wants it to be, either.
I have the spirit of a 5' tall ballet dancer, but I am trapped in a 5'10" frame. If I asked my doctor to surgically make me 5' tall, he'd have me committed.
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