Thread: Suspected flag burner pilloried
#1 Suspected flag burner pilloried
09-26-2009, 02:40 PM
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"The ACLU is going to be all over this !
"That kids will be forced to leave town before this is over. "
VALLEY FALLS -- The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.
It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man..
09-26-2009, 03:24 PM
Just as with any other 'right,' if you choose to exercise it, you'd better be prepared to pay the price.Obama-if you're being run out of town, get out in front and pretend that it's a parade!!!
09-26-2009, 06:01 PM
If I freely exercise my first amendment rights I should be prepared to be turned over to police, fight someone or be taped to a flagpole?
Since I am a fan of street justice, I would advocate this course of action for his real crime of stealing the flag in the first place. If it was his own flag and he burned it he should just tell those guys to go F themselves.Be Not Afraid.
09-26-2009, 06:58 PMObama-if you're being run out of town, get out in front and pretend that it's a parade!!!
09-26-2009, 07:12 PM
What really got me about your post is the part about rights requiring common sense and decency. Who decides where that line gets drawn? You? How about if we let radical muslims draw that line. That is, if I decide I want to post a picture of Mohammed in this thread, it should be removed or I should go to jail because someone thinks it is indecent? You may want to live in that world. I don't.
Posting pics of Mo and burning flags is first amendment protected. That's what those guys fought for and I thank the hell out of them for it.Be Not Afraid.
09-26-2009, 07:41 PM
In order for your argument to stand up, we'd have to take all 1 billion or so possibilities of when one could exercise and prescribe a reaction.. What I'm saying is use your head.. Burning the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars) flag on their property wasn't a well thought out exercise of free speech.Obama-if you're being run out of town, get out in front and pretend that it's a parade!!!
09-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Stealing a flag. Crime.
Burning a flag on someone else's property. Crime but not because it was a flag.
Burning a flag, that I own, on my property, regardless of where it came from or where it flew. Not a crime.
You knocking my teeth out as a result of my burning that flag. Crime.Be Not Afraid.
09-26-2009, 10:33 PMObama-if you're being run out of town, get out in front and pretend that it's a parade!!!
SonnabendGuest09-27-2009, 04:36 AM
What gets me is "they hunted him down"
Vigilantes....if they knew where this kid was, then call a cop. Basically they gave him a choice
1. Be seen by the cops, who would have called it a misdemeanour.
2. Go one on one with a combat vet...hey great choice, volunteer to be beaten half to death.
3. Be publically humiliated
I wonder....what if he had said no to all three...what would they have done,. beaten him up anyway? The kid had left the premises and they went after him.
Assault, false imprisonment...EXTORTION.
If it's a legal issue CALL A COP, and if there are no ground to arrest then leave him the fuck alone because you and your ilk are not fucking judge and fucking jury.
I didn't say that them taping the guy to the flag pole was legal, just as knocking your teeth out wouldn't be, but if you choose to exercise your right to free speech in such an undignified and insulting way, be prepared for the emotional consequences, which generally aren't legal.
Those involved should be arrested and charged, I dont give a fuck what you think you are doing, you do not EVER have the right to take the law into your own hands.
There's a big difference between exercising your right to free speech and just being a stupid asshole and deserving some street justice, as you put it.
"Street justice"? I suppose you're sad they didnt just shoot the kid.
Last edited by Sonnabend; 09-28-2009 at 04:36 PM.
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