#1 "Philadelphia,The City Of Brotherly Love Lives Up To It's Name ! "
07-18-2008, 07:43 AM
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Court says 'gay' rights trump Christian rights
A federal appeals court has ruled the First Amendment rights of homosexuals at Philadelphia's taxpayer-funded "Outfest" celebration in 2004 trumped the First Amendment rights of Christians, and has dismissed the civil rights complaint the Philadelphia 11 had filed. "The city has an interest in ensuring that a permit-holder can use the permit for the purpose for which it was obtained," this week's opinion from the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said. "This interest necessarily includes the right of police officers to prevent counter-protestors from disrupting or interfering with the message of the permit-holder."
They were jailed overnight in the case, but a judge later dismissed any criminal counts as having no basis in fact. The individuals then filed the damage lawsuit against the city.
U.S. District Judge Lawrence Stengel had concluded in dismissing the civil rights claim that a "permit" granted by the city to the homosexuals allowed police to silence the Christian activists' message on public streets.
"It is without question that Judge Stengel's decision has set a precedent to eliminate the First Amendment rights of others by citing that a 'permitting scheme' can be used by police and event organizers to 'exclude persons expressing contrary messages' in public areas and at public events," Marcavage said earlier.
07-18-2008, 02:50 PM
Dude. Wait. What.
Where's the ACLU?Be Not Afraid.
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noonwitchGuest07-18-2008, 04:24 PM
Gay pride groups don't have their marches in downtown Detroit, a city that has as liberal of a government as Philly. They find Oakland County/Woodward corridor (Ferndale, Royal Oak, etc.) or The People's Republic of Ann Arbor to be much more accepting of them than Detroit is. The AIDS walk is always on Woodward in Oakland County, ironically, so is the March for Life (although that extends into Detroit).
Punks like Kwame don't like gays. It is very difficult to be a gay black man in any city outside of San Francisco. Detroit used to have a thriving gay neighborhood-I lived in it (a very safe place for a straight woman to live), in the Coleman Young/Dennis Archer days. The neighborhood went to hell when the gays with money moved north (it happened about the same time as the old greek people started dying off).
I have heard many black people in Detroit say "Martin Luther King didn't die for that", when referring to gay rights.
07-18-2008, 07:10 PM
So if someone has a permit for their activity I somehow lose my first amendment rights. On public property. Interesting.
Apparently the ACLU didn't get involved because they weren't "asked" to intervene. Is that their policy? They need to be asked before they'll do something? Sounds weak.Be Not Afraid.
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