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    Americans have become markedly less supportive of legal abortion since President Obama's election. The country is almost evenly split on the contentious issue, while views in both camps appear to be hardening -- a trend that runs counter to Obama's longstanding desire to find common ground on the issue.

    The shift is not too surprising given the election of a pro-choice president after two terms of a pro-life president, George W. Bush. Pro-choice forces were galvanized by the challenge Bush posed, and a similar dynamic seems to be occurring now, with religion proving to be an especially potent factor in rallying opponents of abortion.

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    A lot of times, the poll results are different due to how the question is asked.

    If you ask "Is abortion morally wrong?" you'll get a different result than asking "Should abortion be legal?".


    I really doubt that abortion will ever be re-criminalized in this country, but I think the republicans like to use it to keep christians voting for their party. Sort of the way the democrats use affirmative action to keep blacks voting for their tickets.
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    If that's the case - then all the dems have to do to win the Christian vote would be to go anti-abortion. Do you HONESTLY think it's that simple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    If that's the case - then all the dems have to do to win the Christian vote would be to go anti-abortion. Do you HONESTLY think it's that simple?
    Most probably wouldn't believe them, if they tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Most probably wouldn't believe them, if they tried.
    Because any fool could see that they were lying through their teeth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    If that's the case - then all the dems have to do to win the Christian vote would be to go anti-abortion. Do you HONESTLY think it's that simple?
    Actually it is that simple for me. As conservative as I am, if Barack obama had been anti-abortion and vowed to criminalize it I would've voted for him in a heartbeat, regardless of all his other radical positions. Abortion is the biggest issue for me right now. I know it's easy to get desensitized to it because it's so common, but we can't lose sight of the fact an actual legalized genocide is going on in our country right now, on the most helpless, hopeless of all. And that tops any other moral issue I can think of.
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    So then why doesn't the democratic party do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    So then why doesn't the democratic party do it?

    They would face a meltdown in their crazy base.
    I long for the days when our President actually liked our country.
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    I agree 100%. Well put. One immoral issue such as abortion is enough for anyone to turn away.
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    Abortions will always be performed in this country, regardless of what the law allows and whether Roe v Wade remains the law of the land or not. If it's illegal, more women will die as a result.


    What I do know is that it is not fair to state that anyone who votes pro choice hates children. Not everyone believes that life begins at conception, or even at implantation. That doesn't mean that those same people hate children. Even a woman who undergoes an abortion doesn't necessarily hate children.

    If the anti-abortion side continues to define the problem as legalized abortion, they will not get any of the changes that they want. Using hyperbolic speech and calling slightly over half of americans "baby killers" is not going to change anything. It's not going to lower the numbers of women seeking abortions and it's not going to change the minds of enough voters to change the laws. Criminalizing women who feel desperate is not going to win over the amount of public sympathy that would be needed to make abortion illegal.
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