DUmmies still having hard time facing reality

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Hope And Change (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 01:49 PM
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Latest Rasmussen And Gallup Poll





http://www.gallup.com/poll/108949/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Ha...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...

polichick (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 01:51 PM
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2. Don't both these polls use old voter roles for their calling pools??
Maybe that's why they don't seem to reflect what's happening on the ground.

Makes me wonder whether state polls use newer lists of voters.

<fingers in ears> "La la la la la ....."

BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 01:52 PM
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3. I am appalled that it is even that close. How could that many people who are against
Bush and his policies feel that it is ok to vote for McSame???

Maybe the media is correct, and there are a lot of idiots out there in the voting public.

Remember, gang, liberals are NOT elitist. They're just smarter than everyone else.

faygokid (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 01:59 PM
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6. It's a phenomenon. The scare tactics have been effective.
Impossible to underestimate the intelligence of the American electorate.

They have voted against their best interests before; no reason to think it won't happen again.

Especially with a black Mooslim on the ticket.

What this means is that libs expect their politicians to BUY their votes with promises of endless social programs paid for by someone else.

mucifer (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 01:52 PM
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4. unfreakingbelievable!
how can mccain's numbers be so high?

I hate the msm.

That evil MSM, plotting against the DUmp as usual. :D

World Citizen (239 posts) Sun Jul-20-08 02:04 PM
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9. Racism is NOT dead
it's alive and thriving, and its not just in the south. It's dangerous to underestimate this factor.

The liberal/conservative split, as seen in the past two presidential elections is about even, like this poll. If racism is alive and well then why are McCain and Obamessiah so close? The only racists that will hurt Obama are Democratic racists. Conservatives will vote for McCain because he is not a socialist and it has nothing to do with Obama's race. The biggest political racism in this country today is how Dem politicians take the black vote for granted while supporting programs which institutionalize black poverty.


Note to lurking DUmmies: Here's why many Americans don't support the Obamessiah:

1) He has VERY little actual experience in government - 143 days on the Senate floor and has authored NO meaningful legislation.

2) He has NO military experience. (Remember how the Dems tried to make such an issue of that in 00 and 04?) He is not qualified to be CiC.

3) A lot of Americans simply DO NOT LIKE socialist policies. And even McCain is too far left on many issues for a lot of conservatives.

4) Just because Obamessiah speechifies well and promises you the moon (which he can't deliver) does not mean he would make a good president.

5) He IS a flip-flopper who sticks his finger in the wind and says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. That is NOT leasership, it's pandering.

6) McCain is no messiah to conservatives but he's a sight better than the Obamessiah.

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=132x6519150

[Carol]

cbc5g (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 02:01 PM
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7. There's a lot of racial hatred being stoked especially in the southern states
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:10 PM by cbc5g
Look at Obama's negatives ... its 47% with like 30% highly unfavorable in Virginia. Racism still exists and we have to confront it.


One thing we can be happy about is that usually voting AGAINST someone instead of FOR someone usually results in a loss. So that high percentage that is voting AGAINST Obama instead of FOR McCain will likely result in a loss for McCain. McCain isn't giving them anything to feel good about to vote favorably for him.

The ususal leftist meme. Anyone who does not agree with Obama and votes for McCain is a "racist". One would think that sooner or later they would get that yelling racism all the time is only going to hurt them in the long run.

As it is now I frequently dismiss screams of racism because leftists have so changed the definition of racism that more often than not it's just crying "wolf". It certainly diminishes REAL racism. When I don't have time or am not in the mood I just don't even try to sort out what is "crying wolf" and what is true racism and needs to be denounced. It's sad, but that's what our society has come to courtesy of the liberals.

Fluffdaddy (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 08:27 PM
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36. The BE scares the shit out of me. That's the only reason I was a HRC supporter
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 08:28 PM by Fluffdaddy
I wake up in cold sweats worrying about the bradley effect. I fear 75% of the "undecided" voter is going to vote white........ahhhh I mean McCain.

[Voice of Reason]

faygokid (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-20-08 01:59 PM
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6. It's a phenomenon. The scare tactics have been effective.
Impossible to underestimate the intelligence of the American electorate.

They have voted against their best interests before; no reason to think it won't happen again.

What this means is that libs expect their politicians to BUY their votes with promises of endless social programs paid for by someone else.

Whatever else faygokid may be, he's certainly not original. Ayn Rand was putting his words in the mouths of her caricature liberals 65 years ago.

"Something's got to be done about the masses. They've got to be led. They don't know what's good for them. What I mean is, I can't understand why people of culture and position like us understand the great ideal of collectivism so well and are willing to sacrifice our personal advantages, while the working man who has everything to gain from it remains so stupidly indifferent. I can't understand why the workers in this country have so little sympathy with collectivism" --Mitchell Layton in The Fountainhead.

Yep, Ayn, you called it.

[Elspeth]

The ususal leftist meme. Anyone who does not agree with Obama and votes for McCain is a "racist". One would think that sooner or later they would get that yelling racism all the time is only going to hurt them in the long run.

As it is now I frequently dismiss screams of racism because leftists have so changed the definition of racism that more often than not it's just crying "wolf". It certainly diminishes REAL racism. When I don't have time or am not in the mood I just don't even try to sort out what is "crying wolf" and what is true racism and needs to be denounced. It's sad, but that's what our society has come to courtesy of the liberals.

Welcome to my world, Carol.