Unless you are in the chain of command for a National Guard unit then you rank has no consequence and you are just like everybody else.
I live in an area where many high ranking people stationed at McDill are located. Most of them higher rank than you. Some of them actually were able to attain a rank higher than LTC after 21 years in the service
They are not immune from the police and they would be subject to any action of the National Guard in time of emergency, the same as you.
Oh, and my prior enlisted time obviously never occurred to you. I'm what is known as a "mustang," a former enlisted Soldier who was selected to attend Officer Candidate School, where I endured far more abuse, far closer up, than you can ever hope to bring to bear. Go back to whining about your carpet. Maybe the cops will conclude that no one with an aqua carpet in their gun room could ever be a threat. :p
See above.Originally Posted by LogansPapa
Last edited by Odysseus; 07-21-2008 at 06:59 PM.
The premise is that the NG soldier was sent to confiscate weapons. He was under orders to do so and you were not using your weapon in your job duties.
You are assuming that the soldier would not confiscate your weapon when he has been given orders to do so. That is no different from the little old lady in New Orleans who didn't think her weapon would be confiscated because 1. she legally owned it, 2) her age and 3) she was only using it for self defense.
That may be how it works in scenarios with regards to MACDIS operations but, if this scenario were playing out in reality, where soldiers are coming to your house to collect arms ....then your going to be past the point where your rights or rank, or military procedures mean a thing. I think if you didn't give up your arms, in this scenario, you wouldn't be alive very long, much less a field officer. That soldier will be under orders from Big Brother by then....and no one will outranks the one that gave Fuhrer directive #1.
I wonder how the neighborhood would react as a whole. Most of the people in this area own firearms. Disarming the first home might not be a problem but as word got out they might have a mess on their hands. I suppose in a hurricane situation where you might be the only one for a few square blocks it might be a whole lot easier but going door to door in a full neighborhood could be a mess. I do not think I would sit by and watch my neighbors be shot for trying to keep their firearms and I think more than a few of the people in this area feel the same way. I do not have any delusions of winning out against a well organized and trained unit of soldiers with select fire weapons and ordanance like grenade launchers though. :(
I guess it all comes down to the situation in the end.
See, now you have a situation. My neighbor a few houses up calls my cell and says the police were just there and took all his guns at gunpoint, and they're doing the same to every house in the neighborhood. He's calling me and everyone else in the neighborhood to let us know. I wouldn't plan on just quietly turning my gun over, but what else is there? Hide it? We're talking about a Constitutionally-protected individual right. You shouldn't have to hide it, and even if you did, who says they won't find it anyway and arrest you? Even if you did turn it over quietly, who guarantees you get it back? There may be a lot of armed citizens in your neighborhood (good), but I guarantee there are more police with better weapons. It would be a mess for the police, but I just don't see any positive outcomes for the regular people involved.Originally Posted by Vepr
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