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  1. #1 Rasmussen : 73 percent say GOP leaders have lost touch with Republican base 
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    I know what the first 50 comments below are going to say if I don’t say it here first, so here you go: Only 73 percent?

    President Obama told an audience at a Democratic Party fundraiser Wednesday night that Republicans often “do what they’re told,” but GOP voters don’t think their legislators listen enough to them.

    Just 15% of Republicans who plan to vote in 2012 state primaries say the party’s representatives in Congress have done a good job of representing Republican values.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 73% think Republicans in Congress have lost touch...

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/2...publican-base/
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    I was listening to a Liberal talk program a week or so ago whose host was saying there would be a major schism in the Republican party between those considering themselves to be conservatives and evangelicals and those who consider themselves to be moderates. I thought it to be wishful thinking on his part.

    Numbers like this make me wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg View Post
    I was listening to a Liberal talk program a week or so ago whose host was saying there would be a major schism in the Republican party between those considering themselves to be conservatives and evangelicals and those who consider themselves to be moderates. I thought it to be wishful thinking on his part.

    Numbers like this make me wonder.
    Don't sweat it. There are not as many 'moderates' as they would have you believe - and they aughta know full well if they go - they will have even less influence cause the left isn't going to listen . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    Don't sweat it. There are not as many 'moderates' as they would have you believe - and they aughta know full well if they go - they will have even less influence cause the left isn't going to listen . . . .
    Independents, libertarians , moderates or whatever you want to call them make up around 30% with the other 2/3 split between D's & R's. In order for either party to win a National election, they have to get the majority of the independent vote. Those 73% in that poll sure as hell do not like what Obama and the Democrats are peddling. The Repubs can count on the majority of them voting Republican in a national election if they put up a good candidate that want less government, less taxes, no public option, etc. Jobs and the economy will determine the elections in the future. Local races are a different animal as some Independents might replace an incumbent of either party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Independents, libertarians , moderates or whatever you want to call them make up around 30% with the other 2/3 split between D's & R's. In order for either party to win a National election, they have to get the majority of the independent vote. Those 73% in that poll sure as hell do not like what Obama and the Democrats are peddling. The Repubs can count on the majority of them voting Republican in a national election if they put up a good candidate that want less government, less taxes, no public option, etc. Jobs and the economy will determine the elections in the future. Local races are a different animal as some Independents might replace an incumbent of either party.
    dumbass - read what is written - the discussion is about 'moderates' in the GOP. And with 30% of the vote being not dem or GOP that does not make them moderates.
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    I'm probably a moderate by most ways of reckoning but I won't be voting for a Democrat in any national or state race.

    I think the definition of moderate varies depending on who you are talking to or talking about.

    I remember the discussion here in the primaries in the 2008 presidential election. I also remember how the preferred conservative candidates eventually fell by the wayside. That was my first major election where I totally had left the Democratic party as far as my core political beliefs.

    I admit to being baffled by the rancor between conservatives and moderates at the time. I mean, I don't mind political people knocking the bark off each other in the course of an election. To me that's normal. But there seems to be a process going on that is both interesting and a little scary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg View Post
    I'm probably a moderate by most ways of reckoning but I won't be voting for a Democrat in any national or state race.

    I think the definition of moderate varies depending on who you are talking to or talking about.

    I remember the discussion here in the primaries in the 2008 presidential election. I also remember how the preferred conservative candidates eventually fell by the wayside. That was my first major election where I totally had left the Democratic party as far as my core political beliefs.

    I admit to being baffled by the rancor between conservatives and moderates at the time. I mean, I don't mind political people knocking the bark off each other in the course of an election. To me that's normal. But there seems to be a process going on that is both interesting and a little scary.
    I like the idea of a three party system. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I like the idea of a three party system. :)
    Three or more. It will be a hard thing to accomplish though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    dumbass - read what is written - the discussion is about 'moderates' in the GOP. And with 30% of the vote being not dem or GOP that does not make them moderates.
    At least I don't write like a dumb ass union teacher. Plus, if you do not like my slight departure from the subject matter, you can go f. yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg View Post
    Three or more. It will be a hard thing to accomplish though.
    I think the Conservative party would be looking real good right now. But it can't stray! You are either a conservative or a moonbat, no middle ground!

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