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  1. #1 Finally - the media wakes up - Uncontrolled Muslim influx a threat 
    Sonnabend
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    Not from WND, hamps.

    A FEW weeks ago in London, British Foreign Secretary David Miliband told me that 75 per cent of the terrorist plots aimed at Britain originated in the federally administered tribal areas of Pakistan. Some 800,000 Pakistanis live in Britain.
    ...waiting for the penny to drop.....

    The vast majority, it goes without saying, are law-abiding citizens. But there is a link between uncontrolled Muslim immigration and terrorism.
    There is a link between Islam and terrorism. A fucking huge one.

    The real historic significance of the illegal immigration crisis in our northern waters is that this could, if things go wrong, be the moment Australia loses control of our immigration program, and that would be a disaster.
    And wind up with car-b-ques in the streets.

    It is extremely difficult to talk honestly about Muslim immigration. All generalisations about it are subject to countless exceptions. Muslims are very different from each other. Most are reasonably successful.
    Except when you show them some cartoons, then people start dying all over the world, embassies are torched and there are thousands of rioters in the streets

    But a much bigger minority end up with social, political, extremist or other problems resulting from a lack of integration than is the case with any other cohort of immigrants in Western societies. A lack of honest discussion about this results in bad policy.
    We'd be happy if they integrated...trouble is they are stuck in a 7th century barbaric religion that sees all non muslims as "kufr" or "infidels".

    The most enlightening book you could possibly read on this is by US journalist Christopher Caldwell, Reflections on the Revolution in Europe: Immigration, Islam and the West. It is by far the best book on public policy of any kind I have read for a long time. It is wittily written but attempts to be neither provocative nor politically correct. It is dense with data but its greatest strength lies in laying bare the intellectual, political and social dynamics that have led to the mess in Europe
    I have a copy on the way.

    The way the Australian debate is reprising what were profoundly destructive and misguided European debates, dominated by moral sanctimony and a failure to grasp reality, is eerie.
    We got a bird's eye view of what happens when the Religion of Peace™ demonstrates its tolerance and patience....

    Caldwell is enlightening on the way asylum assessment processes are so easily scammed, and the sophisticated, intense exchange of information that means the slightest change in attitude by a receiving country is instantly relayed throughout illegal immigrant networks.
    "asylum seeker" = illegal immigrant

    He writes: "An easily game-able system was in place that made admissions automatic to prospective immigrants who understood it. Various immigrant advocacy NGOs in Europe made sure they understood it... migrants knew the best countries to claim to come from. They also knew the best countries to go to ... (There was an) incredible sensitivity of prospective migrants to shifts in immigration law, and to countries' moods towards immigrants."
    Does this look familiar to anyone?



    Caldwell also shows that once an illegal immigrant route is established as reliable it becomes immensely popular. This is what the struggle in the waters to Australia's north now is really all about.
    KRudd is in a real bind...the illegals he sent to Indonesia are refusing to leave and demanding to be taken to Australia...they are also refusing health and ID checks.

    Since when do illegals dictate where they go?

    He further demonstrates how completely subjective and plastic the asylum-seeker assessment procedures are. In 2001 Denmark approved a majority of asylum applicants. By 2004, when the mood had changed, it approved only one in 10, though of course in Europe rejected applicants basically don't go home.
    Yes, well, Jyllands Posten kind of illustrated the problem.....

    At times Caldwell seems to be arguing against immigration in principle, although all the problems he adduces relate specifically to Muslim immigration, and he acknowledges the success of other immigrants in Europe.
    Yup.

    He frequently acknowledges the success of immigration in Canada, the US and Australia. In Canada and Australia, the governments choose the immigrants. In the US, most illegal immigrants come from Latin America and don't have the Muslim problems.
    Go read the rest. It's quite an assessment.
    Last edited by Sonnabend; 10-29-2009 at 06:28 AM.
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