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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    It was a joke, dumb ass. Plus, you do not know all the people on Wall Street. There have been numerous articles about Obama's plan to increase the Capital Gain Taxes which would sink the Dow a 1,000 points overnight if enacted. Many on Wall Street are scared shitless about Obama's plan to raise taxes, and his Robin Hood approach to fund the many new or expanded social programs.


    Nope. Wall Street has donated nearly twice as much $$$ to Obama than McCain this election cycle, raking in cash from employees of JPMorgan, Citigroup, UBS AG, etc...

    Yeah, Obama is a real anti-capitalist socialist in the tradition of Mao Zedong alright.


    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli..._twice_-2.html
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavierob82 View Post
    Nope. Wall Street has donated nearly twice as much $$$ to Obama than McCain this election cycle, raking in cash from employees of JPMorgan, Citigroup, UBS AG, etc...

    Yeah, Obama is a real anti-capitalist socialist in the tradition of Mao Zedong alright.


    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli..._twice_-2.html
    Just hedging their bets .I am sure that a bright and well rounded critter like you already knows that .Their donation cycles are well known and each year the formula changes slightly.It's all written off and hidden in their accounting procedures.The IRS has an agent assigned to all of the big company's to try and keep track of their actual money flow with a hand held calculator and a spread sheet .A friend of mine was such an agent and he told me it was laughable the way they moved funds around from one branch in Europe and another in Asia .Not a chance of ever getting an accurate picture of what funds were where !
     

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    The Sweet Illusion Of Socialism

    By TERRY SATER | Posted Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:30 PM PT
    The underlying issue of the 2008 election makes this a watershed moment in American history, too important to shrink from full and frank debate or allow emotional appeal to cloak party platform DNA.

    In April, when Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., was asked if presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama was a Marxist, he replied:

    "I must say, that's a good question . . . I will tell you that during this campaign, I've learned some things about him, about the kind of environment from which he came ideologically. And I wouldn't . . . I'd hesitate to say he's a Marxist, but he's got some positions that are far to the left of me and I think mainstream America."

    It was a good question, but there is a broader one: Will America hold to the principles of capitalism and free enterprise or will it embrace elements of socialism, Marxism and communism? Those are our choices.

    The 21st century. The age of Smart phones and Stupid people.

    It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavierob82 View Post
    Nope. Wall Street has donated nearly twice as much $$$ to Obama than McCain this election cycle, raking in cash from employees of JPMorgan, Citigroup, UBS AG, etc...

    Yeah, Obama is a real anti-capitalist socialist in the tradition of Mao Zedong alright.


    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli..._twice_-2.html
    They would never think of making a contribution to someone that is in favor of bailing them out so that they could keep their jobs and looking out for their best interests. Since Obama is the favorite, that never entered their mind also. If it looks like McCain will win, these fat cats will dump money in McCain's coffers fast and furious. You know what playing both sides of the street means?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    And yet if you try to promote Humanism or an economical system other than capitalism in schools, you'll be insulted for it.

    If you want to buy this stuff, go ahead.
    Humanism IS promoted in the school system. It is the De-Facto state sponsored religion.

    The Humanist Manifesto (written by the father of American Education John Dewey) IS what is being taught in our schools. Here it is:

    FIRST: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.

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    SECOND: Humanism believes that man is a part of nature and that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process.

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    THIRD: Holding an organic view of life, humanists find that the traditional dualism of mind and body must be rejected.

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    FOURTH: Humanism recognizes that man's religious culture and civilization, as clearly depicted by anthropology and history, are the product of a gradual development due to his interaction with his natural environment and with his social heritage. The individual born into a particular culture is largely molded by that culture.

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    FIFTH: Humanism asserts that the nature of the universe depicted by modern science makes unacceptable any supernatural or cosmic guarantees of human values. Obviously humanism does not deny the possibility of realities as yet undiscovered, but it does insist that the way to determine the existence and value of any and all realities is by means of intelligent inquiry and by the assessment of their relations to human needs. Religion must formulate its hopes and plans in the light of the scientific spirit and method.

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    SIXTH: We are convinced that the time has passed for theism, deism, modernism, and the several varieties of "new thought".

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    SEVENTH: Religion consists of those actions, purposes, and experiences which are humanly significant. Nothing human is alien to the religious. It includes labor, art, science, philosophy, love, friendship, recreation — all that is in its degree expressive of intelligently satisfying human living. The distinction between the sacred and the secular can no longer be maintained.

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    EIGHTH: Religious Humanism considers the complete realization of human personality to be the end of man's life and seeks its development and fulfillment in the here and now. This is the explanation of the humanist's social passion.

    Check Live for the day - if it feels good do it!

    NINTH: In the place of the old attitudes involved in worship and prayer the humanist finds his religious emotions expressed in a heightened sense of personal life and in a cooperative effort to promote social well-being.

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    TENTH: It follows that there will be no uniquely religious emotions and attitudes of the kind hitherto associated with belief in the supernatural.

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    ELEVENTH: Man will learn to face the crises of life in terms of his knowledge of their naturalness and probability. Reasonable and manly attitudes will be fostered by education and supported by custom. We assume that humanism will take the path of social and mental hygiene and discourage sentimental and unreal hopes and wishful thinking.

    Check Must prepare the proletariat for their future miserable existence

    TWELFTH: Believing that religion must work increasingly for joy in living, religious humanists aim to foster the creative in man and to encourage achievements that add to the satisfactions of life.

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    THIRTEENTH: Religious humanism maintains that all associations and institutions exist for the fulfillment of human life. The intelligent evaluation, transformation, control, and direction of such associations and institutions with a view to the enhancement of human life is the purpose and program of humanism. Certainly religious institutions, their ritualistic forms, ecclesiastical methods, and communal activities must be reconstituted as rapidly as experience allows, in order to function effectively in the modern world.

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    FOURTEENTH: The humanists are firmly convinced that existing acquisitive and profit-motivated society has shown itself to be inadequate and that a radical change in methods, controls, and motives must be instituted. A socialized and cooperative economic order must be established to the end that the equitable distribution of the means of life be possible. The goal of humanism is a free and universal society in which people voluntarily and intelligently cooperate for the common good. Humanists demand a shared life in a shared world.

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    FIFTEENTH AND LAST: We assert that humanism will: (a) affirm life rather than deny it; (b) seek to elicit the possibilities of life, not flee from them; and (c) endeavor to establish the conditions of a satisfactory life for all, not merely for the few. By this positive morale and intention humanism will be guided, and from this perspective and alignment the techniques and efforts of humanism will flow.

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    So stand the theses of religious humanism. Though we consider the religious forms and ideas of our fathers no longer adequate, the quest for the good life is still the central task for mankind. Man is at last becoming aware that he alone is responsible for the realization of the world of his dreams, that he has within himself the power for its achievement. He must set intelligence and will to the task.Check

    It should be noted that John Dewey was a Communist also - and a close associate of one of the main founders of the ACLU - Roger Baldwin, who specifically said:

    "I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."

    He also said:

    “Do steer away from making it look like a Socialist enterprise…We want also to look like patriots in everything we do. We want to get a good lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of this country, and to show that we are really the folks that really stand for the spirit of our institutions.”

    This is not ME talking it is the founders of the ACLU and the education system here in the US.

    It is absolutely a planned undermining of our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    Humanism IS promoted in the school system. It is the De-Facto state sponsored religion.

    The Humanist Manifesto (written by the father of American Education John Dewey) IS what is being taught in our schools. Here it is:




    It should be noted that John Dewey was a Communist also - and a close associate of one of the main founders of the ACLU - who specifically said:




    He also said:




    This is not ME talking it is the founders of the ACLU and the education system here in the US.

    It is absolutely a planned undermining of our country.
    That's too much data all at once for poor little Bridget/Lanie to absorb in one sitting !
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Okay, who actually is believing this stuff, and why?

    I believe it and so does Tatiana Menaker.

    My Second Marxist Indoctrination · 03 December 2003
    By Tatiana Menaker--FrontPageMagazine.com, 12/03/03

    After arriving in the United States with a diploma from Leningrad University (a university with such alumni as Vladimir Lenin, Ayn Rand and President Vladimir Putin), I realized that I had the extremely unmarketable skills of a Marxist-Leninist philosophy professor. Moreover, English was not my strong suit. So I became a staff writer for a Russian newspaper in San Francisco and free-lanced for émigré publications in New York and Los Angeles. Eventually, I decided "To bring my English to the level of my Russian" (as the Russian-born American novelist Vladimir Nabokov quipped) and enrolled at San Francisco State University. I majored in creative writing.

    I couldn't believe what I found.

    Imagine the utter amazement of a refugee from a Communist country, where Marxism was forced on all students, now having to sink in a puddle of socialist propaganda again -- but this time in the middle of an American university!
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    The left has been very smart about their indoctrination. They know that they needed to go slow and indocrinate our citizenry step by step - slowly and covertly. As Roger Nash Balwin said: "Do steer away from making it look like a Socialist enterprise…We want also to look like patriots in everything we do. We want to get a good lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of this country". The have done this so gradually and so clandestinely that most people just accept it and see it as no big deal. It has taken them decades, but look at the progress they have made. Hell, they have literally changed the meaning of entire amendments to our Constitution. The 1st, 2nd and 10th amendment - as understood by many people today are in direct opposition to what the founders intended.

    We conservatives, on the other hand insist on absolute purity or we sit home on election day (or vote third party) and let the communists win. We haven't figured out that sometimes you have to take a step back or pause before you can move forward.
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