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  1. #1 Ukrainian Hemorrhagic Influenza 
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    There is an epidemic in the Ukraine.
    Basically you bleed to death - through your lungs.
    Some say it's a severe Swine Flu.
    Others say it's something new.
    Still others say it's a man made bio-weapon being tried out.
    At any rate - it's contagious and there is no vaccination for it.
    And we aren't hearing about this on the news at all.

    Information here

    Ukranian News
    English version is in the first part of the front page.
    A few stories about this hemorrhagic flu.

    FLorida Today - Ukraine Experiencing Severe Influenza-Related Hemorrhagic Epidemic

    Pandemic Flu

    Tonight the nation of Ukraine is in an absolute state of panic as a mystery illness rips through that country. Some reports are claiming that this mystery illness is a more virulent form of the H1N1 swine flu. Other reports are linking the mystery illness with typhus, ebola hemorrhagic fever or even the pneumonic plague. What all the media reports do agree on is that an epidemic is devastating Ukraine tonight and that a wave of panic is sweeping over that nation.

    The following is a list of many of the most recent reports that we have received regarding this outbreak. Hopefully there will be additional reports that will clarify the situation in Ukraine over the next 24 hours.....
    Ukraine iimposes social distancing steps
    Schools are closed ... public meetings banned ... business' are closed .... the entire country is closed etc

    a survivalist forum - Ukranian posts

    I'm fron Western Ukraine, Lviv region (small town 45m north from Lviv called Chervonohrad). You just can't imagine what **** is happening round here. People in panic buy up all medicine. Chemists are sold out. In Kyiv all hostels are closed for visitors, 90% of all students went home. Three-week quarantine for all educational institutions was established all over the country. Hostel administration in my university issued a decree for students to leave their rooms till this Monday.
    Ternopil, the epicenter of this malady, was closed for a military quarantine. In Lviv people are completely scared. Everyone wears gauze masks and gets out of home only in the last resort.
    Also a few days ago, after the midnight some chemical baloney from helicopters was sprinkled above Ternopil and Lviv.
    Queues at the railroad stations are incredible…
    With bated breath, people sit in their homes, taking medicines, eating garlic and onions, and watching TV news from our tinhorn government.
    Yeah, that’s the lifestyle of the present- day Ukraine.
    So what was that he said about 'some chemical baloney from helicopters was sprinkled' over the cities?
    That sounds kinda spooky.

    Blog with bad language

    The Health Ministry has confirmed 33 deaths from flu and acute respiratory viral infection in Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, and Lviv regions since October 19, the Health Ministry said.

    As of 9:00 am, October 30, the number of infected people was 81,000, of them 33,500 are children. A total of 2,341 people were hospitalized, including 1,100 children.

    According to the Health Ministry, the risk groups include able-bodied people, pregnant women, minors and elderly people.
    Um .. isn't that just about everyone?
    If leftists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
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    At the moment this has killed about 67 people. Did all those people really die of this? Nobody knows.

    In the absence of any distinctive symptoms, it's impossible to say what these people died from. If you die of smallpox or typhus or necrotizing fasciitis almost anybody can pinpoint the disease but respiratory infections are a different matter. ;)
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    Nobody knows.
    Yep. They have no idea. It's a very yukky form of something ... bleeding out by your lungs? ugh.
    What a horrid way to go. Drowning in your own blood.
    If leftists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
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    Yep. They have no idea. It's a very yukky form of something ... bleeding out by your lungs? ugh.
    What a horrid way to go. Drowning in your own blood.
    And one of the most common forms of terminal illness in the Western World up until WWII. It was called tuberculosis. I'm not saying this thing is TB, just that spitting out your lungs was a pretty common occurrence until about 15 minutes ago.
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    Ukraine gov't denies spraying cities - martial law expected

    Um .. I posted something from a person living there who SAW the choppers spraying.

    Looks like the Ukraine lies like our gov't lies. They are all the same.
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    Ukraine gov't denies spraying cities - martial law expected

    Um .. I posted something from a person living there who SAW the choppers spraying.

    Looks like the Ukraine lies like our gov't lies. They are all the same.
    Looks like they're still performing Cold War era show pieces for the populace. Even if this disease is widespread, "spraying cities" will basically just dampen the brickwork.
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    I just read that Elton John had been in the Ukraine recently and now he has both EColi and Influenza. He's in pretty serious shape in the hospital and has cancelled a bunch of performances. Can't help but wonder if he caught something while in the Ukraine. I'm looking for dates of his visit there ....
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    WHO 'assumes' Ukraine gripped by swine flu
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...swqY46Zt6_px1A
    AP article or I would paste it.
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    Kiev - The death toll from what has been described as a flu epidemic in Ukraine continued to climb on Monday, as medical assistance from other countries began arriving in the former Soviet republic. Health Ministry figures placed the number of dead from flu infection at 60 people. Swine flu was responsible for some but possibly not all of the deaths, according to a Health Ministry statement.

    More than 191,000 Ukrainians had registered with public health authorities as suffering from flu, of whom 83,000 were children, according to an Interfax news agency report.

    Most of those infected were in Ukraine's western provinces, adjacent to the European Union nations Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania.

    Some 7,000 flu-infected had been hospitalised, and 123 were listed on Sunday evening as in critical condition, said Health Minister Vasyl Kniazevych, in a Channel 5 television interview.

    Four persons killed by the flu had been health workers, he said.

    Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko at a nationally-televised cabinet meeting on Monday called for calm and said her government and the country would be able to deal with the health crisis.

    "We have an epidemic of conventional flu, which is accompanied by a small number of swine flu cases...and one of our tasks is to determine which is which," she said. "At the same time we have to battle with panic-mongering by irresponsible politicians...and some government officials."

    Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko met with a delegation from the World Health Organization on Monday. Kiev needs further international assistance in combating the flu epidemic, which poses a threat to Ukraine's national security, Yushchenko said.

    A Ukrainian military cargo plane loaded with the flu medication Tamiflu late Sunday evening landed at Kiev's Borispyl airport, to be met by Tymoshenko.

    The drug, produced by Swiss-based Roche, would be turned over wholesale to Ukraine's public health system, to prevent price-gouging by private distributors, Tymoshenko said.

    Poland was the first country to donate medical aid to Ukraine, with a lorry-load of medical supplies on Saturday. The delivery going to a Lviv province hospital contained 80 packets of Tamiflu, 300 surgical masks, 70 sets of protective clothing, and a breath- assistance device.

    Shortages in flu remedies, surgical masks and even Vitamin C tablets were reported across Ukraine, despite the foreign assistance, as panic buying emptied chemist shelves.

    Black market prices of some flu remedies, particularly Tamiflu, had rocketed to as much as 10 times normal retail value, Tymoshenko said.

    Educational institutions from nursery schools through universities kept their doors shut across Ukraine on Monday, as a Tymoshenko-announced ban on public gatherings went into effect.

    Ukraine's senior football league, nonetheless, conducted a routine round of matches over the weekend, with games held in stadiums nationwide.
    http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...s--update.html
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    News Article here

    Ukraine cases double in two days.

    478,456 Influenza/ARI

    24,003 Hospitalized

    60 Ventilators

    81 Deaths

    That's a lot for that little country.

    Must be one hell of a strain of Swine Flu .... (IF that's what it really is)
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