Is Marijuana going to be legalized in CA?

**zBoots** · 12-19-2009, 08:28 PM

At this time I do not see a lot of hope of stopping the tide of legalizing marijuana. Legal "medical"

marijuana can be easily had and entire rural areas are making their living off of it. the potential cash value + current legal marijuana presence IMO = It will be legalized by the ballot measure come Nov 2010

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1260...IDDLTopStories

I think its basically accepted as legal now...

What do you think and is it coming to your state?

**malloc** · 12-20-2009, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by zBoots

At this time I do not see a lot of hope of stopping the tide of legalizing marijuana. Legal "medical"

marijuana can be easily had and entire rural areas are making their living off of it. the potential cash value + current legal marijuana presence IMO = It will be legalized by the ballot measure come Nov 2010

article
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1260...IDDLTopStories

I think its basically accepted as legal now...

What do you think and is it coming to your state?

Originally Posted by The Bill of Rights

XIV. The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people

X. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

Marijuana, when accompanied by a doctor's perscription is already legal in California. I don't recall any power granted to the Congress under Article 1, Section 8 that allows the Federal Government to deny such a prescription, nor do I believe an amendment which would grant such power exists. In all questions of governance not expressly authorized by Article 1 - Section 8 or the amendments, the Congress cannot make any law and expect it to be enforced. Therefore, California is free to make their own laws on this issue so long as we actually believe the Constitution holds any merit.

The federal government was completely off it's dominating rocker when it created these abolitionist laws. Short of a Constitutional Amendment, the U.S. had and still has, no authority to regulate these substances or the manner in which they are made available nor prescribed. Sure, the U.S. can prevent the sale of these substances across State lines, and from outside the borders of the U.S. However, what is grown in California, prescribed in California, and administered under California law is sacrosanct under our form of government.

Before you disagree or start harping on the inherit bad nature of these substances, imagine if marijuana were replaced with firearm, and California were replaced with Montana. You've probably realized by now that your argument against California's control of it's own plants is purely partisan and self-serving.

**RobJohnson** · 12-20-2009, 08:21 AM

80% of CA is already high, this should get the number closer to 100%

**zBoots** · 12-20-2009, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by malloc

Before you disagree or start harping on the inherit bad nature of these substances, imagine if marijuana were replaced with firearm, and California were replaced with Montana. You've probably realized by now that your argument against California's control of it's own plants is purely partisan and self-serving.

I wasnt aware I was going to argue against it. I'm going to vote for legalization, but not because of your arguments. I voted against Medical Marijuana.. but that passed, so now the laws are a joke. Everyone running to a pot doctor and paying $125 for a fake prescription for their pot for the headaches or whatever is a joke. Pot heads pooling their prescriptions and growing huge farms worth of "medical pot" is a joke.

I think a vote yes is necessary. Medical MJ, except for a very few rare cases, is a joke and CA might as well reap the tax benefit.

**lacarnut** · 12-20-2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by zBoots

I think a vote yes is necessary. Medical MJ, except for a very few rare cases, is a joke and CA might as well reap the tax benefit.

I am not in favor of legalizing pot. However, you are correct that the law regarding medical M. is a joke. The politicians see big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ signs. I have heard they want to tax it at 33%. Who in their right mind would buy legal pot when they can buy it a hell of a lot cheaper in the black market. That is a big problem and the state does not have the resources to police it either. Also, money, money, money, is what all the killings in Mexico is about. Do you want to import that type of violence here. It will happen. The legit sellers against the black market thugs. More drugs===more crime and murders. Just common sense. Plus, what's next? legalization of H, coke, etc.

**johvale** · 12-20-2009, 02:36 PM

the government would be hoping that the American people were lazy in the pot buying, thus paying all the taxes... Lets face it.... If you can buy pot AND chips at the local grocery store then why search around on the black market... Dude.

**lacarnut** · 12-20-2009, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by johvale

the government would be hoping that the American people were lazy in the pot buying, thus paying all the taxes... Lets face it.... If you can buy pot AND chips at the local grocery store then why search around on the black market... Dude.

Because it would be 33% cheaper and would be just as available as the taxed dope.