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    I have no qualms about any technique the military or intelligence community want to use - to gain information, or even just so they have something to do (aka "training"). What I do have a major problem with is the publicity of such practices. Filming such things - other than in an official capacity, as in the case of trophies to show your buddies back home: Stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    The prisoner can quit any time that he wants to. He just has to spill what he knows. The critical issue is why we're using the technique. Remember that a lot of the liberals who are apalled by waterboarding terrorists would have no problem if Karl Rove or Dick Cheney were strapped down.
    Actually, the prisoner can NOT quit when he wants. What if the interogator doesn't believe him? What if they think there is more? Sorry, doesn't float.

    But I'll help with the single malt scotch ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theophilus View Post
    Tried?? :eek: What are you smoking? I want him given the Congressional Medal of Honor.
    I quit smoking years ago :D

    As for the CMH, OK with me. But after the hearing to determine if he acted in accordance with military procedure and in the best interests of the USA.

    Sometimes you need to have the hearing just to prove the SYSTEM is working as advertised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    How can it not be torture? So it isn't as bad as other forms of torture, you're still being drowned.
    The technique applied isn't actual drowning. It's the feeling of drowning, the person is in no actual danger of being drowned. No water actually flows into the lungs, merely over the face. Trust me, it FEELS like you're going to drown and die. It's very scary. But you're not in real danger of death, at least if it's applied properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by expat-pattaya View Post
    Actually, the prisoner can NOT quit when he wants. What if the interogator doesn't believe him? What if they think there is more? Sorry, doesn't float.
    But I'll help with the single malt scotch ;)
    I prefer Glenfiddich, the 18-year-old is the best. Drop me a PM for the mailing address. :D

    Quote Originally Posted by marinejcksn View Post
    The technique applied isn't actual drowning. It's the feeling of drowning, the person is in no actual danger of being drowned. No water actually flows into the lungs, merely over the face. Trust me, it FEELS like you're going to drown and die. It's very scary. But you're not in real danger of death, at least if it's applied properly.
    It's certainly a psychological torture, but so is sitting through most reality shows, and nobody calls the ACLU over Wife Swap.
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    Hell just put em in a small room, play that damned Barney song over and over...Pretty soon anyone would tell ya anything ya want to know...
    Say what ya mean and get to the point quick....I don't have the attention span to listen to bullshit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ree View Post
    Hell just put em in a small room, play that damned Barney song over and over...Pretty soon anyone would tell ya anything ya want to know...
    That's if they haven't lost their sanity before so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ree View Post
    Hell just put em in a small room, play that damned Barney song over and over...Pretty soon anyone would tell ya anything ya want to know...
    Now that is cruel and unusual torture. ow would you like it if they did it to our guys :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ree View Post
    Hell just put em in a small room, play that damned Barney song over and over...Pretty soon anyone would tell ya anything ya want to know...
    Isn't that one of the "torture techniques" that has drawn criticism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsSmith View Post
    Isn't that one of the "torture techniques" that has drawn criticism?
    Really???:D
    Say what ya mean and get to the point quick....I don't have the attention span to listen to bullshit...

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