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    Quote Originally Posted by gator View Post
    The main reason they are failing as a party today is because they are trying to out liberal the Democrats.
    Does this prove the point that Ďa crying baby will eventually be coddledí, or are Republicans simply falling for the popularity contest that the Democrats have revelled in since FDR?

    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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    How much of that deficit has been spent on services for Illegals? Let's not forget our friends coming across the border. That is top priority in my book. Of course, we don't have a candidate who will do a damned thing about it. Personally, I think it's time for the individual states to take back the rights that were stolen away around 150 yrs ago. If California wants the illegals, let them have 'em and let 'em pay for them.

    Back to the topic, there's a hell of alot more than the war causing this deficit. I understand that the war is costing the nation lot's of money. I know it's the easiest to point at, but what about the rest of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    How much of that deficit has been spent on services for Illegals? Let's not forget our friends coming across the border. That is top priority in my book. Of course, we don't have a candidate who will do a damned thing about it.
    A pittance next to the hundreds of billions being spent on citizens.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    Personally, I think it's time for the individual states to take back the rights that were stolen away around 150 yrs ago. If California wants the illegals, let them have 'em and let 'em pay for them.
    I wonder what would happen if a state decided to secede, what the reaction would be.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    Back to the topic, there's a hell of alot more than the war causing this deficit. I understand that the war is costing the nation lot's of money. I know it's the easiest to point at, but what about the rest of it?
    What about it? Republicans love their socialism just as much as the Democrats love theirs.
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    A pittance next to the hundreds of billions being spent on citizens.

    I say cut services to leeches who just happen to be born here, I wouldn't call them citizens. But start with the illegals. If they get sick or hungry enough, they'll go home.



    I wonder what would happen if a state decided to secede, what the reaction would be.

    What was the reaction to the last resistance to an overbearing government? Scratch that, ther one before that.:D


    What about it? Republicans love their socialism just as much as the Democrats love theirs.

    There's not a hell of alot of difference between the two, I know that. The politicians are just playing Risk with the nation. It's all a power grab.
    I feel that once a black fella has referred to white foks as "honky paleface devil white-trash cracker redneck Caspers," he's abdicated the right to get upset about the "N" word. But that's just me. -- Jim Goad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    I say cut services to leeches who just happen to be born here, I wouldn't call them citizens. But start with the illegals. If they get sick or hungry enough, they'll go home.
    I say cut services to everyone.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    What was the reaction to the last resistance to an overbearing government? Scratch that, ther one before that.:D
    Heh. Oh I know what the federal reaction would be. I was thinking more along the lines of everyone else. There was a thread on a Zogby poll that said something like 20% of the respondents thought a state had the right to peaceably secede, but I wonder how many of those would be screeching for the feds to crush all resistance if it actually happened.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    There's not a hell of alot of difference between the two, I know that. The politicians are just playing Risk with the nation. It's all a power grab.
    More like Monopoly, only they can print their own money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    A pittance next to the hundreds of billions being spent on citizens.

    I say cut services to leeches who just happen to be born here, I wouldn't call them citizens. But start with the illegals. If they get sick or hungry enough, they'll go home.
    Except that my stateís Republican business owners have made vast fortunes on these folks (and would all be deeply fined and in prison now if the law was enforced as written) and just want them to remain in the shadows, until all the noise dies down, without ever really Ďgoing home.í

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeebMaster View Post
    I say cut services to everyone.
    Yes including all illegal immigrants and any other non U.S. citizen...that includes all foreign aid.
    If you want to honestly assess government spending you have to look at the whole picture foreign and domestic. There is just no denying that 7 years of perpetual war is a drain on the economy and the tax payer.


    Over 87 billion appropriated just in 2003 for rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan. That number has increased exponentially since then.

    And why do we continue to give billions of dollars to dependant dictators in Africa and the middle east who oversee nothing resembling a Democracy. Many of these idiots preside over a Kleptocracy?
    - about 4 billion in aid to Africa in 2006.

    498 billion dollars for the war effort in Iraq. It's projected to cost around 600 billion in the next year.
    Coupled with the costs of maintaining 61 major military installations worldwide.

    The budget for 2008 doesn't even reflect this money we are borrowing to pay for all of this, so the 16 percent on defense and social security and welfare are very misleading.
    The numbers for domestic spending on welfare and illegals do not even remotely resemble what we maintain in foreign aid and perpetual war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    And why do we continue to give billions of dollars to dependant dictators in Africa and the middle east who oversee nothing resembling a Democracy. Many of these idiots preside over a Kleptocracy?

    - about 4 billion in aid to Africa in 2006.
    Gee - for a whole continent, thatís fairly cheap (about 35%) when compared with a certain "strategic M/E country.";)
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