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    Anglican Church in North America ‘should be in communion with C of E

    ’Ruth Gledhill

    One of the most controversial motions to reach the General Synod for several years will be debated today when members discuss a proposal that the Church of England should be in communion with the breakaway US conservative Church, the Anglican Church in North America.

    Lorna Ashworth, a lay member from the Diocese of Chichester, will call for the General Synod to express a wish for communion with the new group, which has 742 parishes and more than 800 clergy in the US and Canada and opposes the consecration of openly gay bishops and the blessing of gay partnerships.

    Mrs Ashworth, a Canadian-born mother of three who works as a volunteer at All Saints’ Church in Eastbourne, said: “Most lay members like myself have little understanding of the technical ins and outs of canon law but what is clear, however, is the shocking and unjust treatment of historical, biblical Anglicans as they seek to continue to live out their faith in this province.”

    Many have been subject to legal actions over property, and some have been deposed from their orders.

    “In proposing this motion, my desire is that the members of synod would have the opportunity to express their own view on the consequences of the behaviour of those in authority in the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church in Canada,” said Mrs Ashworth.

    “Doctrinal innovations have been imposed on these Churches, leaving bishops, clergy and lay people uncertain as to where they belong in the Anglican family.

    “As a result, they have come together with the support of many other Anglican provinces to form the Anglican Church in North America.”

    Bishop David Anderson, of the Anglican Church in North America, said: “We have fond and warm feelings for the Church of England, the mother Church. We are larger than 12 Anglican provinces worldwide, larger than Wales and Scotland, Jerusalem and Japan, South-East Asia, the Southern Cone and six other provinces.”

    The Bishop of Winchester, the Right Rev Michael Scott-Joynt, said: “My sense of where we are going is an opportunity for synod to recognise the good and godly life of the Anglican Church in North America and the way in which God seems to be using it at present. There is space for more than one expression of Anglicanism in North America.”

    Bishop Scott-Joynt said that he had talked with the Archbishop of Canterbury and told him that he thought the communion was effectively divided and that he should recognise that and publicly say so. The Bishop described Dr Rowan Williams as “remarkably courageous” with the painful task and costly leadership of keeping things together.
    I wish he would.

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    Church May Split Over Women Bishops and Gay Priests, Warns Rowan Williams

    Church May Split Over Women Bishops and Gay Priests, Warns Rowan Williams Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent Members of the General Synod listen to Dr Williams?s address yesterday The Archbishop of Canterbury warned yesterday that damaging infighting over women bishops and gay priests could result in a permanent split in the Anglican Communion.

    Dr Rowan Williams stressed that he did not “want or relish” the prospect of division. He called on the Church of England and Anglicans worldwide to step back from a “betrayal” of God’s mission and to put the work of Christ before schism.
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    The Rev Rod Thomas, of the evangelical group Reform, said that the Archbishop had made it clear that people should not pursue changes in church doctrine that “unchurch” their opponents. He warned: “At the moment the Church is set on a course of action that will exclude traditionalists and evangelicals.”

    Christina Rees, of the pro-women’s ordination group Watch, said: “The question is, how can we go forward with as much unity as possible in a context where we have decided we are going to have women bishops?”

    Who’s who in the Church

    Church of England Mother Church of the Anglican Communion


    General Synod Church of England’s governing body, Britain’s only other law-making body outside Parliament. Its measures are law

    The Episcopal Church One of 38 “provinces” in the Anglican Communion, the official Anglican body in the US, with one gay bishop, Gene Robinson, and potentially another, Canon Mary Glasspool, due to be consecrated in May. Has a woman bishop, Katharine Jefferts Schori, as primate

    Anglican Church in North America Biblically orthodox Church formed by breakaway bishops, priests and laity from the Episcopal Church

    Anglican Mainstream International evangelical lobbying group

    Reform Conservative evangelical grouping within the C of E

    Watch The successor to the Movement for the Ordination of Women, lobby group for women bishops

    Fulcrum Centrist evangelical group in England, represents evangelicals willing to stay in the same Church as liberals

    Inclusive Church Advocates full inclusion of women and gays

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    I wonder what will happen when the money dries up? Bequests have dropped like a rock over the last 10 years here in the States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    I wonder what will happen when the money dries up? Bequests have dropped like a rock over the last 10 years here in the States.
    bequests to who? the gay friendly episcopal? Would communion with CofE benefit the conservatives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    bequests to who? the gay friendly episcopal? Would communion with CofE benefit the conservatives?
    Bequests to the PECUSA. There's been a lot of bad blood. It's hard to see how communion would benefit traditional Christians in any way. Preservation of the communion has always been held out as a line we could never cross without "losing" our Anglican identity in some way. My bunch broke in in the 1970s and we've grown since then with no problems. Others have broken away over the past 15 years and they've grown.

    It looks like that line has been crossed. I just wish everybody would admit it: schism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    I just wish everybody would admit it: schism.
    :eek: oh noes!
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