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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    You mean the oncologist or the homeopathologist right? Two doctors with different takes on the same issue. But I wouldn't want you to be reasonable in your criticsms of dissent so you go right ahead and continue couch the argument in ludicrous terms.
    Good grief - we arent debating the analogy here. The point of it is, that you abused the fallacy of the appeal from authority. You arent going to rescue yourself by nitpicking an analogy to death. Another rookie mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Good grief - we arent debating the analogy here. The point of it is, that you abused the fallacy of the appeal from authority. You arent going to rescue yourself by nitpicking an analogy to death. Another rookie mistake.
    I'm not the one who made the appeal to authority so. . . . But rest assured, when you choose to do so I will be happy to poison the well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I'm not the one who made the appeal to authority so. . . . But rest assured, when you choose to do so I will be happy to poison the well.
    <facepalm> And we're back to square one.

    Perhaps you'll believe wikipedia - or have the global warming conspirators gotten to the entry on "Arguments of Authority" too?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority

    On the other hand, arguments from authority are an important part of informal logic. Since we cannot have expert knowledge of many subjects, we often rely on the judgments of those who do. There is no fallacy involved in simply arguing that the assertion made by an authority is true. The fallacy only arises when it is claimed or implied that the authority is infallible in principle and can hence be exempted from criticism.
    And once again I must bludgeon you over the head with the fact that CS's argument - the one TNO was responding too - is an appeal to authority!!! So, um... going to start "poisoning that well" too? Doubtful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    <facepalm> And we're back to square one.

    Perhaps you'll believe wikipedia - or have the global warming conspirators gotten to the entry on "Arguments of Authority" too?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority



    And once again I must bludgeon you over the head with the fact that CS's argument - the one TNO was responding too - is an appeal to authority!!! So, um... going to start "poisoning that well" too? Doubtful.


    In case you were wondering - I've opted for the appeal to ridicule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post


    In case you were wondering - I've opted for the appeal to ridicule.
    Problem is, it isnt me you're making look foolish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Problem is, it isnt me you're making look foolish.
    Dude - I don't have to MAKE you look foolish! You do a fine job of that all on your own just like all elitists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    In this case, we have climate scientists, and many statisticians and many other scientists of all stripes versus - one statistician.
    There are many scientists of "all stripes" that don't believe in AGW. Here's a small sampling of 31,486 (9,029 with P.hd's) of them in the U.S. alone.

    http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Problem is, it isnt me you're making look foolish.
    I could post another poll Wilbur. For foolish you'd win hands down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swampfox View Post
    There are many scientists of "all stripes" that don't believe in AGW. Here's a small sampling of 31,486 (9,029 with P.hd's) of them in the U.S. alone.

    http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php
    Oh, God! Not the OISM petition again!

    I once picked a random name from the OISM petition...

    Hugh Berckmueller
    http://www.petitionproject.org/signe...name.php?run=B

    As it turns out, Mr. Berckmueller is an ophthalmologist.

    Dr. Hugh Berckmueller MD
    Ophthalmologist - Newport News, Virginia

    I'm sure that Mr. Berckmueller is a nice fellow but... I really don't care to know what ophthalmologists think about climate change. And, nevermind the fact that the OISM petition was so haphazardly compiled that one of the Spice Girls managed to get on it. And, nevermind the fact that people who signed the OISM petition were tricked into thinking that they were signing something which had received the endorsement of the NAS.

    31,486 scientists my ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    Oh, God! Not the OISM petition again!

    I once picked a random name from the OISM petition and checked it out. The result:

    Dr. Hugh Berckmueller MD
    Ophthalmologist - Newport News, Virginia

    Yes, I really want to know what ophthalmologists think about climate change. And, nevermind the fact that the OISM petition was so haphazardly compiled that one of the Spice Girls managed to get on it.

    31,486 scientists my ass.

    So you got one out of 31,000 big deal. You will have to do better than that, were not democrats!
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