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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubs View Post
    The underlying data has been fabricated.
    News to me. What specifically has been fabricated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubs View Post
    The science is not settled.
    So, if you feel that the science isn't settled then would it be fair to say that you're of the mind that Earth's climate may be warming and that human activities may be the cause of the warming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Just some food for thought - though I'm sure most of you will choose to starve.

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...acts-and-spin/

    The actual work of the IPCC is done by unpaid volunteers
    I bet most here had no idea of this - I certainly didnt. I always assumed that the IPCC was a huge bureaucratic behemoth.
    In other words, they are rank amateurs!!!!


    Thank you Sir Wilbur for confirming my contention!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    So, if you feel that the science isn't settled then would it be fair to say that you're of the mind that Earth's climate may be warming and that human activities may be the cause of the warming?

    I would point out that whatever warming we HAD (it is now cooling) was nothing unusual in any way, shape or form; and anyone who points to a graph that only goes back in history to the mid 1800's is lying by omission.

    It is a HORRIBLY inadequate sample time frame that was cherry-picked to produce just the sort of mass hysteria we have witnessed on this subject over the past few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    I would point out that whatever warming we HAD (it is now cooling) was nothing unusual in any way, shape or form.
    you mean . . . . :eek: . . . . it's . . . . . natural!?!?!?!?!?111/??/?!/1/
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    News to me. What specifically has been fabricated?
    I would suspect it was the same data that happens to have been deleted or misplaced buy the "disorganized" climatologist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    In other words, they are rank amateurs!!!!


    Thank you Sir Wilbur for confirming my contention!!!
    Let me post the whole thing for you, since it doesnt look like you read the whole thing:

    "The actual work of the IPCC is done by unpaid volunteers – thousands of scientists at universities and research institutes around the world who contribute as authors or reviewers to the completion of the IPCC reports. A large fraction of the relevant scientific community is thus involved in the effort."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    I would point out that whatever warming we HAD (it is now cooling) was nothing unusual in any way, shape or form; and anyone who points to a graph that only goes back in history to the mid 1800's is lying by omission.

    It is a HORRIBLY inadequate sample time frame that was cherry-picked to produce just the sort of mass hysteria we have witnessed on this subject over the past few years.
    So, to your way of thinking, the science is settled. That's my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    I would point out that whatever warming we HAD (it is now cooling) was nothing unusual in any way, shape or form; and anyone who points to a graph that only goes back in history to the mid 1800's is lying by omission.

    Um.. it hasnt been cooling. Its "cooling" in the same way that congress "cuts the budget", where an increase is slightly reduced, but its still an increase nonetheless. But the decrease in the increase has not deviated from the expected variation of natural climate variability. In other words, it hasn't been statistically significant. And its still warming - just slower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    So, if you feel that the science isn't settled then would it be fair to say that you're of the mind that Earth's climate may be warming and that human activities may be the cause of the warming?
    The earth has been warming and cooling long before man showed up and it's been warming and cooling long before the industrial era. That is settled science. Is man playing a role in any current temperature changes? That is up in the air. The science is not settled. Your questions are too simplistic.
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