A friend of mine gave me a link to this leftist forum a while ago. I posted a thread about the forum on Conservative Cave, copy-pasting some of their worst posts. Anyway, I visited the forum today, and I came across a discussion about Hitler's ideology. It was originally a thread about Ron Paul, but it got derailed and became about Hitler. Go figure.
DragonLegend Posted: Feb 21 2010, 01:13 PM
Ron Paul is so far to the right you could easily confuse him for a lefty.Neitzluber Posted: Feb 21 2010, 10:19 PM
Ron Paul is not far-right.
Adolf Hitler was far-right.Иван_ Posted: Feb 22 2010, 12:03 AM
Look Legend, fascism itself was born as an answer to communism, many fascists consider themselves the opposite to commies (although, this is not totally right, as, both ideologies got a point in which they can get related. i.e. Stalinism).
Hitler criticized communism and lefties in many speeches in the 30s, and noted several times that at beggining (around the 20s, I believe) he didn't even want to name he's party "national socialist" because of the relation to the marxist socialism/communism.
Economically, the extreme right is neo-liberalism; socially, the extreme right is a mix of Fascism and Fundamentalism. Economically, the extreme left is communism; socially, the extreme left is anarchism.
Thus, I believe you are right at one point, as, Hitler, economically, was a moderate leftist (as he was against the capitalist economic system (according to a speech of his in 1927)), but, socially, he was a full extreme rightist. As he was more inclined towards the social spectrum, than the economical one, he is considered a rightist. But, once again, you are still right at some twisted point.Oh dear God. I don't even know what to say.DragonLegend Posted: Feb 22 2010, 12:41 AM
I see you edited your post. How was Hitler "a full extreme rightist" when it comes to social issues? Vegetarianism, gun control, eugenics, euthanasia, abortion, animal rights, neo-paganism, to name a few. Doesn't sound like a full extreme social rightist to me.
So, if he was center-left economically, and socially leftist... how exactly was he a far rightist? No, he most certainly was not on the right. Leftists (or, if you'd prefer, collectivists/statists) love to push the meme that fascism is a right-wing ideology, when in fact it is simply a different flavor of totalitarian statism. The struggle of right vs left is the struggle of individual freedom versus collectivism/statism, a category that socialism and fascism both fall in to.