Thread: The Census is Getting Personal
#1 The Census is Getting Personal
02-22-2010, 11:44 PM
- Join Date
- Aug 2005
This is an expose' of the Census Bureau. This video itemizes the fundamental legal questions that the Census Bureau refuses or fails to answer about its collection and use of personal information from every American (see questions below). This program aired on Matrix News Network (syndicated national television) in January of 2010.
Without any apparent authority the Census Bureau has expanded it's information gathering activities. In addition to the once-in-10-years Census authorized by the Constitution, the Census Bureau conducts more in-depth "Surveys" of 250,000 Americans every month of every year. It has no Constitutional authority for that, in fact the Bureau is violating the 4th Amendment to the Bill of Rights by suggesting that Americans are "obligated" to provide any personal information whatsoever to government. The Census Is Getting Personal
The Constitution allows the government to count people once every ten years, but does not require any American to BE COUNTED, OR TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION AT ALL, much less to provide personal information to the temporary worker and stranger who comes to your door with a Census Bureau badge.
Americans have been given very false impressions and presumptions of the authority of government to invade their lives. Even the Census takers themselves are sometimes misinformed of the limits of government.
Once your information is out there, it is out there for good. There is no such thing as a "secure database" in government. Government data is bought, lost, stolen and viewed every day by everyone from law enforcement to criminals at all levels of society. Spill your life to strangers at your front door or on the "questionnaire" at your own risk. Beyond that is the question, if we agree to pass over our private information to bureaucrats, is there any limit to what they will ask for next?
My reason for producing this video and for posting it on YouTube is that I see so many people everywhere who don't seem to understand that the USA has become something very different than the country of our origin, and we have ALREADY lost many of the rights and freedoms that were given to us by nature (God?) and were protected for us again in our Constitution. Our Constitutional framers never imagined the spending, waste, taxation intrusion and aggression that our government now commits without restraint.
How did that happen? When our government pushes us we fail to push back so, after many decades of that, government simply sees no boundaries at all on its own presumed force and authority.
It is our government. It is our servant. Government can have no authority but that which it derives from us. But government employees, officials and representatives do need to be reminded of that on a regular basis.
There is a pdf file of the Census Bureau's AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY Questionnairre at: http://www.census.gov/acs/www/SBasics... If you are not disturbed by the questions they will ask you then you are not reading it carefully.
QUESTIONS THAT THE CENSUS BUREAU REFUSED OR FAILED TO ANSWER
(from Jerry Day's Matrix News Network segment: "The Census Is Getting Personal") I strongly suggest asking these questions of your Census Taker, especially if they show up with an "American Community Survey" form:
1) The Constitution authorizes government to count people but it does not authorize the taking of private information or even the names of individuals. From where does the Census Bureau derive authority to demand our private information?
2) Is there any limit to the amount and type of private information that the Census bureau may demand and collect?
3) Under what Constitutional authority does the Census Bureau collect information now from 250,000 people per month of every year?
4) The 4th Amendment to the Constitution prohibits government search and seizure of private information without a court warrant based on probable cause. Current Census policies violate that Amendment do they not?
5) By what Constitutional authority does the Census Bureau threaten penalties for failure to provide personal information?
6) The Census Bureau claims it maintains privacy of personal information. Are there any circumstances under which law enforcement or spy agencies can access Census information?
7) Since presumably Census data may be subpoenaed by law enforcement, may individuals refuse to answer questions according to the fifth Amendment?
8) Why has the Census Bureau decided to collect GPS coordinates for every home?
9) Virtually every government database has been either lost, hacked or compromised. Would the Census Bureau's claim of data security not be an outright lie or at best highly improbable?
10) How would the Census Bureau locate, protect and compensate those individuals whose data becomes compromised? More about the Video Producer at: http://www.jerryday.com/
02-23-2010, 12:19 AM
In 2000 I refused to take part. Then on the last day, this census worker shows up at our door and we make like we're not home. The knocking goes on for about 15 minutes(persistent little bitch). Finally it stops and my wife takes a peek through the curtains to make sure she was gone. Well, the woman happens to see her, turns on her heel, and begins knocking again, which, as before, we refuse to answer. After about 5 or 10 minutes she gives up.Deplorably Proud To Be An American
02-23-2010, 11:21 AM
- Join Date
- Oct 2009
- Southwest Michigan (in Exile)
just out of curiosity if all i fill out is who is in the house and ages, but nothing else, what would they do come back and try and get me to fill the rest out?
02-23-2010, 11:43 AM
I understand the need to count people, but I only answer the questions the pertain to counting. Anything else is off limits.Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
02-23-2010, 12:12 PM
They might, but as NJ CardFan pointed out, you don't have to open the door to them.
I haven't received any census forms yet this year, but I always fill them out and have never had anyone come to my door in past years. I never really thought much about the questions-mostly, they were demographic things like household size and ages of all members, if I remember correctly.
02-23-2010, 12:51 PM
- Join Date
- Oct 2009
- Southwest Michigan (in Exile)
ah, ok, this is the first one where i'm head of household. never saw it when my parents did it in 2000 cuz i was away at school
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