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  1. #1 I've posted this on other boards - so how about here: Why is Capitalism better? 
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    Taverner (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-06-10 05:06 PM
    Original message I've posted this on other boards - so how about here: Why is Capitalism better?


    Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 05:07 PM by Taverner
    I don't think it is. It's what we have for now, and so one should do their best within the system they've got, not the one they want.

    Honestly, for most people, Socialism is better. I am not talking Marxist Leninism, Rousseau, or any specific theorist.

    Socialism is simply the economic model where the public or direct worker owns and administers the means of production and allocation of resources.

    As a broad concept, why is this not better than Capitalism?
    ThomWV (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-06-10 05:33 PM
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    12. There is not one single example of socialism having worked anywhere for more than a few years Edited on Sat Mar-06-10 05:33 PM by ThomWV
    And nowhere in europe today is there Socialism, every single country operates under a capitalistic model.
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    52. Not one single example? I will give you one.Socialism worked just fine in USSR for over 70 years, turning a backwards illiterate
    desperately poor peasant country into the second most powerful military-industrial
    empire in the world. That happened also in the face of relentlessly aggressive
    hostility from the rest of the world, and despite USSR having to fight several
    costly wars, most devastating of which (WWII) left the country in complete ruin
    and 25 million less in population. And, please, don't give me that crap, about how
    terrible a totalitarian dictatorship USSR was. I was born and spent 25 years of my life
    there, and it was nothing of the sort. It was a dynamic vibrant society full of happy, free
    and creative people - it would not have been able to compete with the US for so long
    otherwise. All the propaganda lies drilled into the brains of the gullible western
    mass media consumers is just a reflection of how afraid the capitalist masters are
    of people finding out that a human society can exist, thrive and progress without
    a profit motive.
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    "Socialism worked just fine in USSR for over 70 years, turning a backwards illiterate
    desperately poor peasant country into the second most powerful military-industrial
    empire in the world."
    Never mind that there were massive deaths from famine and government crackdowns on dissent, and also never mind that in the 70 years that Russia suffered under the scourge of Socialism, over 10 million Christians were tortured and executed for committing the horrible crime of refusing to deny Christ and convert to atheism.
    Of course, that DUmmy would probably regard such a genocide as a wonderful improvement which should be implemented everywhere in the world.
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    capitalism is better for the capitalist class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by movie buff View Post
    "Socialism worked just fine in USSR for over 70 years, turning a backwards illiterate
    desperately poor peasant country into the second most powerful military-industrial
    empire in the world."
    Never mind that there were massive deaths from famine and government crackdowns on dissent, and also never mind that in the 70 years that Russia suffered under the scourge of Socialism, over 10 million Christians were tortured and executed for committing the horrible crime of refusing to deny Christ and convert to atheism.
    Of course, that DUmmy would probably regard such a genocide as a wonderful improvement which should be implemented everywhere in the world.


    I know, that one is either really young and doesn't remember the days of the Iron Curtain, or is totally deluded. The numbers of citizens of the USSR that starved to death during WWII is probably higher than the number of jews the nazis killed in their concentration camps.


    If one wants to overlook their human rights' record, one could make a case that communism brought China into the 20th century. But what made them a 21st century economic power had a lot more to do with backing away from straight-out communism and adapting a level of capitalism in their economy than it did with communism or socialism.


    But China and Russia had one major thing in common that led to communist takeovers-they are huge geographical areas that encompass many cultures within their borders. This caused most of both nations to miss out on the industrial revolution, and be very far behind the large western nations and economies like the US, Britain and Germany. It was a situation that communists could exploit for their own benefit.
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