03-11-2010, 03:28 PM
Even if we are still at a place where we cannot say one is worse than the other, the simple fact is still that the United States government sends BILLIONS of dollars in tax-payer money to fund Israeli actions without putting any restrictions based on their actions.
SonnabendGuest03-11-2010, 03:42 PMApartheid is an international crime.
Israel, like all natons has a right to defend itself, and yes Arabs are suicide bombing and attacking them regularly
03-11-2010, 03:59 PM
There would be no "institutionalized apartheid" as you call it if there were no homicide bombers. There would be no reason to build fences and segregate one population from the other if people intent on murdering civilians didn't walk in to cafes or sit down on buses or walk in to cowarded markets and blow themselves up. If you look at the history of things this "institutionalized apartheid" didn't start until the homicide bombers started killing unsuspecting people. I would much rather see a fence built to keep killers out than to send in a battalion of men and equipment in to the areas that harbor them and take more undeserving blood.Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
03-11-2010, 04:01 PMNever argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
03-11-2010, 04:06 PM
Here the issue isn't so clear cut because neither side is without fault.
I'd like to recommend a documentary about this issue called Death in Gaza
It focuses on the children growing up in gaza, hoping to see (without justifying it mind you) what it is like growing up in that environment and what exactly pushes these people to hate so deeply they are willing to kill themselves just to hurt the "enemy". It shows how propaganda and martyr worship is used to convince youngsters to give their lives for the cause, and it shows the constant fear and terror they live in.
The director of this film intended to have half of the film focusing on children in Gaza, and the other half focusing on children in Israel. Unfortunately, during the filming of this movie, the director was shot and killed by Israeli defense forces. The altercation that included the killing of the director was actually caught on film and is shown in it (a bit ironic don't you think?)
The film is very powerful and doesn't offer any clear answers, in fact if anything it only opens up more questions. I highly recommend it.
03-11-2010, 04:08 PM
It's available to watch free here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...death+in+gaza#
03-11-2010, 04:11 PM
It's really sad because some of the children they focus on are adorable. Very sweet and kindhearted, cute and much like American kids. However, you can see very clearly easy it is for something so divine as childhood can be turned into radical violent martyrdom.
03-11-2010, 04:15 PM
Read this and get back to us. Black September in Jordan with all this chicken and egg thory.At least once every human should have to run for his life, to teach him that milk does not come from supermarkets, that safety does not come from policemen, that news is not something that happens to other people. ~ Robert Heinlein
You Say The Battle Is Over
03-11-2010, 06:25 PM
If it's us or them, I choose us.
Freedom speaks English.
September 11; a moment of great moral clarity
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