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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Don't accumulate any debt and pay off the ones you have. Keep a stock of food on hand in case of shortages. I have a feeling our economy is going down. How can you place an even greater burden on a suffering economy and expect anything but bad results!
    Ok. How much food?
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    Slippery slope there RJ! New laws are not good! And what if after a month you are not working, someone will pay! Th Imperial Federal Government will make sure of that!

    : “Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal.”
    ” Obummercare, 20 percent of the time it works everytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    I don't think the Supremes have alot of love for the 0! This has to be shot down as unconstitutional!!
    How can the feds mandate that we HAVE to buy something!!??!!

    The kick in the ass is this will be overseen by the IRS, a beloved institution!
    They will ignore much of what is going on, the have already shown a tendency to do this with Obama on other issues. The congress and the white house have been ignoring the constitution and laws for the last year without any ramifications. You forget that Obama runs the justice department that enforces the laws that congress makes and the decisions the courts give. Legal or not you can tie things up for years when you run things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Ok. How much food?
    Learn to hunt! :D

    : “Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal.”
    ” Obummercare, 20 percent of the time it works everytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Ok. How much food?
    I have at least a years worth. don't leave it set till it's out of date I rotate it and use it. The leadership we have now are making absolutely crazy decisions. Cap and trade will be the next blow and I don't think we'll stop it either. We underestimated the socialists and I'm afraid we will continue to do so until it's to late. Don't count on a rescue in November!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I have at least a years worth. don't leave it set till it's out of date I rotate it and use it. The leadership we have now are making absolutely crazy decisions. Cap and trade will be the next blow and I don't think we'll stop it either. We underestimated the socialists and I'm afraid we will continue to do so until it's to late. Don't count on a rescue in November!
    God.

    You know I was just reading this:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...6nIg1YNA&pos=1
    Lipsky Says Debt Challenges Face Advanced Economies (Update1)

    March 21 (Bloomberg) -- Advanced economies face “acute” challenges in tackling high public debt, and unwinding existing stimulus measures will not come close to bringing deficits back to prudent levels, said John Lipsky, first deputy managing director of the International Monetary Fund.

    All G7 countries, except Canada and Germany, will have debt-to-GDP ratios close to or exceeding 100 percent by 2014, Lipsky said in a speech today at the China Development Forum in Beijing. Already this year, the average ratio in advanced economies is expected to reach the levels seen in 1950, after World War II, he said. The government debt ratio in some emerging market nations had also reached a “worrisome level.”

    “This surge in government debt is occurring at a time when pressure from rising health and pension spending is building up,” Lipsky said. Stimulus measures account for about one-tenth of the projected debt increase, and rolling them back won’t be enough to bring deficits and debt ratios back to prudent levels.

    Rising public debt could lead governments to seek to eliminate it through inflation or even default if they fail to carry out fiscal measures in time, Mohamed A. El-Erian, co-chief investment officer at Pacific Investment Management Co. warned earlier this month. Nassim Nicholas Taleb, author of “The Black Swan,” a book arguing that unforeseen events can roil markets, said March 12 he is concerned about hyperinflation as governments around the world take on more debt and print money. ...


    HOW CAN WE AFFORD THIS HEALTH CARE BILL WITH ALL THIS PUBLIC DEBT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    Learn to hunt! :D
    It isn't long term shortages that will be a problem mainly short term supply chain breaks. It doesn't cost a lot of money to put away some cans of beans and canned hams and other food that will keep if the electricity goes off for awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    I don't think the Supremes have alot of love for the 0! This has to be shot down as unconstitutional!!
    How can the feds mandate that we HAVE to buy something!!??!!

    The kick in the ass is this will be overseen by the IRS, a beloved institution!
    You may be right, but even if the Supreme Court strikes out the federal mandate to buy health insurance, that doesn't invalidate the entire bill, just that provision.
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    In the past I have been kinda a middle ground voter, another words I have voted for some Dems as well as Reps.

    After yesterday, I will NEVER vote for another Demonrat EVER AGAIN!

    Stupack lied his ass off, even on camera last night after the vote. He was bribed with the airports for his district, and best part, looked drunk on the floor last night. He sold his soul and the nation down the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    By November they will have forced through their cap and trade and will likely be started on opening our borders.
    Killed me when I read about the immigration supporters already marching yesterday for immigration reform, getting between the pro and anti health reform supporters. Naturally they sided with the Pelosi supporters. Now they'll have free health care and won't even have to wait in the ER.

    Pelosi and crew will have to legalize their supporters (and dig out more votes from the cemeteries) to keep them in office come November.

    I'm glad that didn't have my blood pressure taken last night. It would have been through the roof!
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