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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Let's concentrate on the 010 elections. In politics, many things can happen in 7 months much less in 2 1/2 years

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    Pitting hypothetical Republican candidates against Obama really means nothing. Paul's name recognition is not so hot outside people who are into politics; these are votes against the Obama Administration -- not votes for Ron Paul.

    I'd be curious to see what Sarah Palin's numbers against Barack Obama are? If they've done this Ron Paul its surely been done for her.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Pitting hypothetical Republican candidates against Obama really means nothing. Paul's name recognition is not so hot outside people who are into politics; these are votes against the Obama Administration -- not votes for Ron Paul.

    I'd be curious to see what Sarah Palin's numbers against Barack Obama are? If they've done this Ron Paul its surely been done for her.
    dude...you obviously don't understand polls.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    dude...you obviously don't understand polls.
    Then explain them for me and use that to repudiate what I said.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Then explain them for me and use that to repudiate what I said.
    Polls are used to gage whether or not a person should run for an office and how well they'll fare. by going to the base of ones party (ie the people "into politics") one can get a very good idea of how well they'll fare against incumbents. though most of the time it's the polling companies themselves or news corporations that will make up a poll for candidates that are frequently mentioned to see how they compare.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    Polls are used to gage whether or not a person should run for an office and how well they'll fare. by going to the base of ones party (ie the people "into politics") one can get a very good idea of how well they'll fare against incumbents. though most of the time it's the polling companies themselves or news corporations that will make up a poll for candidates that are frequently mentioned to see how they compare.
    Its more important, at least initially, to find a candidate who can beat the others from his/her own party during a primary season. It may show viability in a national election, but does anybody seriously think Ron Paul could beat Barack Obama in a national election?
     

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    no, he can't. but people are starting to see that he was right about a whole lot of things. including what happened in Oct 08 with the bubble collapse. the reason he can't? cuz of his idiotic polices on foreign affairs and being and isolationist
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Its more important, at least initially, to find a candidate who can beat the others from his/her own party during a primary season. It may show viability in a national election, but does anybody seriously think Ron Paul could beat Barack Obama in a national election?
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    no, he can't. but people are starting to see that he was right about a whole lot of things. including what happened in Oct 08 with the bubble collapse. the reason he can't? cuz of his idiotic polices on foreign affairs and being and isolationist
    Guys, it's a candy mint and a breath mint! It's two mints in one.

    Seriously, you're both right. The poll numbers reflect Obama's dwindling popularity rather than Ron Paul's ability to garner votes. Paul has minimal name recognition outside of Republican circles and very low favorables among Republicans.

    Palin, OTOH, has very low negatives among Republicans but high negatives among everyone else, which reflects the unrelentingly negative media coverage that she's gotten since she was first put on the McCain ticket. A head to head match up between her and Obama would reflect that she has not overcome that, but wouldn't necessarily mean that Obama was suddenly more popular.

    Ultimately, the next election will be a referendum on Obama, as will the 2010 congressionals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Ultimately, the next election will be a referendum on Obama, as will the 2010 congressionals.
    Yup, and the ugliness of it will be legendary.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Yup, and the ugliness of it will be legendary.
    Poor baby...have a little wine with your whine.

    Kicking Reid and Boxer to the curb will be a thing of beauty, and watching prune face Pisslosi give up the Speaker's gavel will also be priceless.
     

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