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  1. #1 DUer Galoglas arrested today when he went to vote!!!! 
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    OK, Missouri folks, what's the story?

    proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 08:04 PM
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    DUer Galoglas arrested today when he went to vote!!!!

    Just got off the phone with him. They asked him for more ID than state law requires and when he refused, he was arrested!! He promised to post the whole story when he gets home. He just got out of jail and is on the phone with several officials. He called and asked me to post the news of his arrest. So watch for his thread.
    proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 08:25 PM
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    18. Missouri

    No voter ID but you have to show something. Sorry I am not clear on the law. I live in KS.
    proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 08:40 PM
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    28. They asked him for something with his signature

    He said the law doesn't require that. They refused to let him vote and he was arrested. He'll have to fill in the details. This is all he told me on the phone.
    Here is what I found:
    What type of identification do I need at the polling place?

    Missouri law now requires that, before receiving a ballot, voters must identify themselves by presenting a form of personal identification from the following list:

    * A voter ID card
    * Identification issued by the State of Missouri or any agency of the state.
    * Identification issued by any agency of the United States Government.
    * Identification issued by an institution of higher learning located within Missouri (university, college, trade or technical school).
    * A current utility bill, bank statement, government check or other government document containing the name and address of the voter.
    * Driver's license or state identification card issued by any state.
    * Personal knowledge of the voter by both election supervisors upon completion of a voter affidavit that is signed by both supervisors and the voter.

    NOTE: If the voter does not have any identification and is not personally known by both supervisors, he/she may not vote.
    one Duer has doubts:
    aspergris (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 08:46 PM
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    30. ok. but...

    "They refused to let him vote and he was arrested"

    The details before the "and" make all the difference.

    Did they ask him to leave, and he refused, and was subsequently arrested for a trespass after prohibition? were the cops called by the poll workers? why?

    or what? Again, I'd also like to see the PC cert.

    In my many years in law enforcement I only heard of one person ever arrested in conjunction with voting.

    It was a person who got into an argument with the volunteers, was asked to leave ... repeatedly... refused... and was arrested.
    alert! alert! alert!
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    I would assume that there is more to the story, i.e. the moonbat going into a rant about the BFEE and stolen elections.
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    I think Bush and Cheney are behind this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanBama View Post
    I think Bush and Cheney are behind this.
    Nope, it was Teh Rove. His fingerprints are all over this.
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  5. #5 Google has nothing at all on this 
    I actually wasted 5 minutes searching, too...
    Shakespeare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakespeare View Post
    I actually wasted 5 minutes searching, too...
    A very long response from the DUmmy, and VERY predicable. He/she/it was obviously just trying to cause trouble. SHOW YOUR DAMN ID, you jackass, it's not that difficult. :mad:

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    163. Galloglas Update: Out of Jail, and ready to answer all questions:

    I will try to be as brief as possible with the description of my day as I can manage. But, since there are some sticky points, I will also try to be clear and complete. If anyone finds questions still hanging after reading this entry, and the comments already made above in response to Proud2Blib's post, I will gladly answer.

    I, Galloglas, went to vote today and encountered difficuly. And, it is important to point out that this was not the first time I've run onto problems this year.

    When I voted in Missouri's Presidential primary in February, 2008, I took the proper identification to my precinct and attempted to cast my ballot. The identification requirements are spelled out graphically on our Secretary of State's Web Site which can be found at http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/voterid /.

    And, as I am of the belief that the "Voter Fraud" question is exclusively a creature of the GOP's making (a grudging tip of my hat to the GOP's odious "Thor" Hearne for fathering, with Karl Rove, this abominable scheme), and that the entire "Voter Fraud" issue is nothing more than a smokescreen to encourage the various state's to pass Photo Voter ID Laws, I always choose to use whatever acceptable identification is furthest from that which the GOP would mandate if Missouri did have Photo Voter ID laws.

    That said, I point out that Missouri's Legislature did pass SB 1014 in 2006, mandating Photo Voter ID. But SB 1014 was ruled unconstitutional in October, 2006. Similarly, in May 2008, the legislature made another attempt to enact the legislation, but it died in committee. Consequently, Missouri has no Photo Voter ID law and the SoS voter ID requirements (above) are the prevailing law of our state.

    In February, 2008, when I went to my precinct to cast my Presidential primary ballot, I walked in and was asked for my driver's license. I said, "Sorry. Here is my election authority ID instead. I wish to use that as my ID."
    The judge said, "Look. Show me your Driver's license, or you don't vote!". To which I replied, "Look. If you want my driver's license to let me vote, we got a problem?" And the election judge replied, "Oh, no! I gotta see you picture ID or I won't know who you are."

    To shorten this February episode, let it be known that A) since I had not seen this particular election judge before, and B) he seemed challenged either by lack of intellect or lack of proper training, I simply told him "call the Election Board office and ask them. You simply can't require that." This gentleman refused to do so, telling me that "if you do not like it, you can just leave!"

    I replied, "OK, partner, I'll show my driver's license to you... but only under protest... and I will file a complaint with the Election Board. "You go right ahead!" he replied.

    And I did. But, as one might expect, no report was ever prepared by the Election Board and when I inquired about its status in May, 2008, the bipartisan heads of the offices claimed no knowledge of it. When shown the status trail, proving the existence of the complaint, I was finally told "Well, it must have gotten lost.We have had some problems with temps and their paper work this year."

    So, with the August primaries coming up, I wanted to insure no repeat of February's problems, and I made a call to my local election board (Eastern Jackson County, Missouri, Election Board), speaking to the GOP appointee, one Charlene Davis.

    I recounted the events of February to her on the phone and asked, "Do you agree that the ID requirements for casting a vote in Missouri, as recounted on the SoS's web site, are the official and proper IDs? That these are the acceptable forms of ID? And that they must be accepted by the precinct personnel?"

    She then replied that sometimes a person might not be asked for an ID if the judges readily recognized the voter. Pressed on the matter, she replied, "Yes. If they ask for ID, the SoS's page governs what is acceptable." I pressed further, "So, Charlene, if I come in with my precinct issued ID, or a utility bill, or my bank statement, there will no more requests for a Photo ID?"

    Charlene Davis answered with the usual CYA statement about training poll workers, poll workers working long hours, mixups in communications,etc. So I asked this, "Well, since we've agreed as to what it should be, then I can just call you if there are any mixups and you wil set them straight?" "Yes, just call me." she replied.

    So this morning I walked into my precinct at about 9:45AM, along with my son. Both of us were carrying Precinct issued voter cards, bank statements and utility statements, all of which are acceptable forms of ID in Missouri. The precinct is in the basement of a church and there are two precincts there: 08A and 08C. As I walked in, there were a total of six persons. Three for each precinct.

    The first person who spied us was a lady, who asked "Do you want to vote?" "Yep", I replied. "I'll need to see your ID", she said, and I handed her the precinct-issued ID cards. She picked it up, glanced at it and said, "I'll need to see your something with your signature on it."

    "Uh... I don't think so. What I gave you is valid ID."

    "No,", she replied, "I need to see something with your signature on it, otherwise I won't know who you are." And that gave me a bad feeling.

    So I said, "Uh, Ma'am, that Precinct ID card tells you who I am. It came to my mailbox last week, so that the Election Authority knows I still live there. If you want to see my signature, you can look at it as soon as I seen the Poll Book."

    The judge was a bit flustered, all the other judges started looking at my son and I, and then she said., "Oh. This is the wrong line anyway. Step to that table for precinct 08A." And my son and I picked up our papers and moved to the other line where there were three male judges.

    The first judge was named Leroy (he would tell em his last name) and he asked for our IDs and was handed the precinct-issued cards. He left them sitting on the table and said, "You need to show me IDs with your signatures on it!", in rough, angry tone.

    I replied, "No sir, I do not." and handed him a computer copy of the SoS's web page, printed from this location. http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/voterid / The judge did not even look at it, instead standing straight up from his chair, raising his voice loudly, and said, "If you don't want to vote, there is the door, and you can leave now!"

    My reply was, "Sir, we do want to vote. My son and I have both brought the proper ID, and the Sos"s sheet verifies that. Now, if you are refusing to let us vote, please tell us why." And the reply was, "I need to see your signature!"

    (Now bear in mind, the next step in the voting is to actually sign the Poll Book, at which time judges can look at my signature all they want. But what was being demanded was some ID which was already signed. Then it dawned on me that many people would only have signatures on some government-issued IDs, such as Driver's Licenses.
    Compliance with such demands would result in voters having to show Photo Voter IDs without even the need of the GOP-controlled Missouri Legislature having to pass another Photo Voter ID Act. In effect, causing Missouri voters to comply with conditions which had been declared unconstitutional in 2006!)

    With the sudden realization of what was probably happening,I had to make a decision. Glancing around the room, I realized that I had seen all of these election judges at past elections. What was the likelihood of them all being untrained, or them all having forgotten what the rules were in the prior election. I calculated the odds were long.

    I turned back to Leroy and replied, "Leroy, my son and I want to vote. We brought what was required of us. I am holding the SoS's web page n my left hand. If you will not look at it, or read it, please call Charlene Davis at the Eastern Jackson County Election Board, or call the SoS's office to find out what you are supposed to do. Because we want to vote."

    We were then told, "You can either give me what I told you to, or you can just get out that door and find someplace else to vote!" (as he stood towering above my son and I). I looked him in the eye and said, "Leroy, Nope! We will not leave until you give us our rights. We've a right to vote!"
    Leroy leaned over the table and shouted, "Not unless you follow our rules here!" To which I replied, "Your rules do not trump the laws of this state! Please read them!This ID card (the precinct-issued card) is all I need. And slapped the card down on the table in front of him. "this is all that is required."
    Continued on next post. (This guy has Wee Willie Pitt disease)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph wiggum View Post
    I would assume that there is more to the story, i.e. the moonbat going into a rant about the BFEE and stolen elections.
    Yeah, something about Diebold and 9/11 too probably.
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    rug (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-05-08 08:18 PM
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    14. He should have showed them his Circuit City receipt instead.
    Well how interesting! So he was the nut who refused to show his receipt and made a scene, and the store employees called the cops. Sounds like Galoglas is a Cindy Sheehan-type attention whore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph wiggum View Post
    I would assume that there is more to the story, i.e. the moonbat going into a rant about the BFEE and stolen elections.
    the dummy story will be like all dummy stories...

    "i calmly refused to show them id."

    "and then that badass 80 year old poll worker grandma threatened me and started to tazer me..."

    "but i very courteously demurred and offered my reasonable and differing opinion..."

    "then a jackbooted grandpa began stomping me to the floor as i quoted ghandi and..."


    i love a dummy version of any story when a dummy is arrested.
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