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    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's health care overhaul law is getting a mixed verdict in the first comprehensive look by neutral experts: More Americans will be covered, but costs are also going up.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100423/...care_law_costs

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    When I joined the army (under a CONTRACT), my dependants were covered 100%. Over the years, the army switched to insurance for Dependants where I pay for them like any other insurance program. This is fine with me except for the violation of a CONTRACT. However, that is somewhat off track. More to the point, that insurance has begun to cover less, is harder to get the actual care paid for, and is more expensive.

    What part of NO GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE do you DUmmies not understand?
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    What is scary to me is that doctors and hospitals will receive cuts in their reimbursements. I am on Medicare and had out patient surgery. Doctor bill was $3k - $2350 not allowed==$650 the doctor got paid. Medicare was billed $300 for blood work; they paid $24. An EKG was done; medicare paid zero.

    At this rate of payment, doctors and hospitals will quit taking Medicare patients.

    Obama and the Democrats are a lying piece of shit. They knew that the HC bill was going to cost much more. Plus, only a moron would believe that this plan would wind up with cost savings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    What is scary to me is that doctors and hospitals will receive cuts in their reimbursements. I am on Medicare and had out patient surgery. Doctor bill was $3k - $2350 not allowed==$650 the doctor got paid. Medicare was billed $300 for blood work; they paid $24. An EKG was done; medicare paid zero.

    At this rate of payment, doctors and hospitals will quit taking Medicare patients.

    Obama and the Democrats are a lying piece of shit. They knew that the HC bill was going to cost much more. Plus, only a moron would believe that this plan would wind up with cost savings.
    Tricare is much the same. Had an emergency room bill that Tricare paid about 20% of. I think the only reason why a lot of hospitals and Dr's take it is because it's the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's health care overhaul law is getting a mixed verdict in the first comprehensive look by neutral experts: More Americans will be covered, but costs are also going up.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100423/...care_law_costs

    Who would have guessed this?
    Um. Everyone who's paid attention would have guessed it. Obama and the leaders in congress have very openly stated that the current bill primarily focuses on expansion of coverage, and additional measures will need to be taken to bring down costs.

    I think this current bill, by itself, without additions to it, is ATROCIOUS, awful, and wrong.

    As a stepping stone, it's excellent, but if this is all we are getting, it amounts to nothing more than the most blatant example of a government handout to big business, and this bill by itself without any additional legislation is, in my opinion, morally wrong and I'm totally against it, even though there are some good things about it (subsidies for those who can't afford it, health exchanges, and the reduction in deficit spending because of our current rising health care expenditures)
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    The Public Option is the key to this, without it, I may dare say I hate this bill and if nothing is changed before 2012 Obama will lose my vote.
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    The hilarious part is that people actually associate this bill (as it is) with socialism, when it will ultimately benefit the wealthiest capitalists in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The hilarious part is that people actually associate this bill (as it is) with socialism, when it will ultimately benefit the wealthiest capitalists in the world.
    Socialism creates and benefits the wealthiest. There are those who are more equal than the others. You are going to eat your words one day. This will amount to government takeover of health care. Kiss the best health care in the world good bye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    the best health care in the world
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    lol
    You can always move to Canada or the EU.
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