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  1. #1 Why Is This Not Being Investigated As A Hate Crime? 
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    This is the prime reason why hate crime legislation is a farce. Now, it's a given that this lawyer was a chucklehead but unless he is guilty of taking someone elses life or someone is acting in self defense, his idiotic views do not warrant being murdered. Be that as it may, he was murdered by a black man. On top of stabbing him, his house was set on fire. Had the roles been reversed and, say, Malik Zulu Shabazz was murdered by a white person, there would be no hesitation that it would be a hate crime. This is why this foolishness is going to be the death of society as we know it. White people may be in the majority in this country but we are in the extreme minority when it comes to equal protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
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    This is the prime reason why hate crime legislation is a farce. Now, it's a given that this lawyer was a chucklehead but unless he is guilty of taking someone elses life or someone is acting in self defense, his idiotic views do not warrant being murdered. Be that as it may, he was murdered by a black man. On top of stabbing him, his house was set on fire. Had the roles been reversed and, say, Malik Zulu Shabazz was murdered by a white person, there would be no hesitation that it would be a hate crime. This is why this foolishness is going to be the death of society as we know it. White people may be in the majority in this country but we are in the extreme minority when it comes to equal protection.
    If this had been reversed the media would be all over it.
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    I don't think there has ever actually been a state crime that got upgraded to a federal hate crime.
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    Despite your post-graduate education at Comedy Central and your PhD in South Park, a hate crime is not defined simply as violence against a minority.
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    To be more specific, according to US law, it's not a hate crime to murder someone who has certain views on race, it's a hate crime to muder someone because of their racial identity.

    It's not a hate crime to murder someone because they support gay-rights, or because they oppose gay-rights, but it is a hate crime to murder someone because they are a gay person.

    While people object that it's wrong to increase penalties for crimes based on their motives, that's nothing new, in fact that's the entire idea behind "crimes of passion" and the differences between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree murder (aka manslaughter)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    I don't think there has ever actually been a state crime that got upgraded to a federal hate crime.
    Um, Mississippi has their own hate crime laws, genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Um, Mississippi has their own hate crime laws, genius.
    I figured, but the hate crime rules vary from state to state - so perhaps you can go investigate what Mississippi's specific statutes say, and report back to us.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    To be more specific, according to US law, it's not a hate crime to murder someone who has certain views on race, it's a hate crime to muder someone because of their racial identity.

    It's not a hate crime to murder someone because they support gay-rights, or because they oppose gay-rights, but it is a hate crime to murder someone because they are a gay person.

    While people object that it's wrong to increase penalties for crimes based on their motives, that's nothing new, in fact that's the entire idea behind "crimes of passion" and the differences between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree murder (aka manslaughter)
    And you are madam Cleo?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Despite your post-graduate education at Comedy Central and your PhD in South Park, a hate crime is not defined simply as violence against a minority.
    Stupid little bastard, your barely old enough to grow pubic hair and your lecturing everyone. Go have a juice box or something!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    And you are madam Cleo?????
    No one is, that's why like all court matters, intention (as in the case of 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree murder and "crimes of passion"), as well as "unintentional manslaughter" and insanity pleas must be proven beyond reasonable doubt, like every issue in front of a jury.
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