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    Quote Originally Posted by malloc View Post
    I agree. The police should start shooting back at least.

    Let's see if this sign is shown on the MSM. This asshole should have been arrested on sight. This is an outright threat against law enforcement. And do you notice the "free everything" part of it? And no taxes? We owe them? Fuck you you wetback motherfucker. You all know that if a Tea Partier had a sign similar to this it would be all over the media in a country second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    It would also cause a lot more riots. Arrest them, try them, deport them if they dont belong here... dont kill them.
    I am in favor of killing any SOB that threathens a policeman with physical force. Border patrol and policemen that are attacked should have the right to fire back. I am not advocating shooting peacfull demonstrators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    I am in favor of killing any SOB that threathens a policeman with physical force. Border patrol and policemen that are attacked should have the right to fire back. I am not advocating shooting peacfull demonstrators.
    That's not what I was advocating either. We were talking about using force to stop mobs hell bent on destruction. Not people marching with signs and demonstrating. But when they start throwing rocks and debris at police officers, the force level needs to be elevated. When they start setting fires and what not what, then the force needs to be elevated more. When they start cornering and beating on the opposition, then force needs to be elevated even more.

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    I think the appropriate level of force and threat of force was used in the video above, but I would have rather seen certain protesters arrested and charged rather than just escorted out of the area. The problem is, these people are so low brow they believe anger in large groups is justification for criminal behavior. This Phoenix area protest was nothing compared to the violence, vandalism and damage caused in Santa Cruz and San Francisco. The police in these other areas obviously didn't use the progressive levels of force as the situation escalated.
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    That's because these people are animals. Look at their home countries. Name me a Latin American country that isn't a God forsaken shit hole. And who's government isn't so corrupt that it makes the Mafia look like a coffe klatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    That's because these people are animals. Look at their home countries. Name me a Latin American country that isn't a God forsaken shit hole. And who's government isn't so corrupt that it makes the Mafia look like a coffe klatch.
    Brazil gets a lot of bad publicity from the favelas, but I lived there for six months and it wasn't so bad. The worst part was having to learn some Portugese (worthless language). Argentina has come a long way as well, but still will probably fall under your catagory of "God forsaken shit holes."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    I am in favor of killing any SOB that threathens a policeman with physical force. Border patrol and policemen that are attacked should have the right to fire back. I am not advocating shooting peacfull demonstrators.
    Hateful rhetoric like that sign is dangerous and should not be tolerated. However, it is just rhetoric... responding to that with force is unwarranted and extremely inflammatory. Starting a war in Arizona is not advisable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    If the police would shoot a few of them, that looting would stop pronto.
    I agree 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Hateful rhetoric like that sign is dangerous and should not be tolerated. However, it is just rhetoric... responding to that with force is unwarranted and extremely inflammatory. Starting a war in Arizona is not advisable.
    Would it be looked at as just rhetoric if a similar sign showed up at a Tea Party protest? Of course not. As a mater of fact, the left has gone out of their way to make shit up only to have it refuted, however, here is concrete proof and yet the silence from the left wing news outlets is deafening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Would it be looked at as just rhetoric if a similar sign showed up at a Tea Party protest? Of course not. As a mater of fact, the left has gone out of their way to make shit up only to have it refuted, however, here is concrete proof and yet the silence from the left wing news outlets is deafening.
    So what if a sign like that did show up at a Tea Party protest? Would you be in favor of shooting them on sight?

    Of course you wouldn't, and neither would I. Stupid people are going to say and do stupid things that are completely unrepresentative of the banner they rally under. Dont treat the issue of free speech and state-endorsed murder as something that is morally justified when it silences people you disagree with while claiming itis destroying America when it happens to your side. You will find out the hard way, like so many people have already, that eventually they'll eventually apply the same treatment to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    So what if a sign like that did show up at a Tea Party protest? Would you be in favor of shooting them on sight?

    Of course you wouldn't, and neither would I. Stupid people are going to say and do stupid things that are completely unrepresentative of the banner they rally under. Dont treat the issue of free speech and state-endorsed murder as something that is morally justified when it silences people you disagree with while claiming itis destroying America when it happens to your side. You will find out the hard way, like so many people have already, that eventually they'll eventually apply the same treatment to you.
    The point is that if a sign like that showed up at a Tea Party, the media would be all over it. If no sign like that was there, they'd make it up. But, when that sign appears at a pro-illegal immigration riot, the media ignores it (and the riot). I love how the AP reported that the May Day protests were "mostly peaceful," meaning that they were "somewhat violent." One never saw the word "peaceful" used in AP stories describing Tea Parties.
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