Now that this Shazhad guy has been arrested, I apologize to the teabaggers

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue May-04-10 11:21 PM
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Now that this Shazhad guy has been arrested, I apologize to the teabaggers

At least, I can admit the mistake of hasty judgement here.

MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue May-04-10 11:28 PM
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1. You like the rest of us were basing our belief on what the MSM

Edited on Tue May-04-10 11:35 PM by MadMaddie
reported.

Think about this the MSM would not identify the "White male 40ish suspect" as a potential Terrorist suspect. They would not use the word terrorist. Did you notice that?

Possibly because a "person of interest" in a criminal matter is not generally said to be a "potential criminal". So why should a "person of interest" in a terrorist matter be a "potential terrorist"?

They so wanted it to be a "right winger" that they couldn't look at the report and say, "Gee, they don't have a picture of him exiting the car. In fact the car isn't even in the picture because the person was too far away from the car for it to be in the picture. It's a hot evening and he is taking off a sweater (or jacket?). That's hardly a good foundation to declare him guilty of being a "right wing terrorist".

But because the left wing main stream media said so, the liberals at DU buy it hook, line and sinker like good little sheep.

Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue May-04-10 11:33 PM
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5. We base our beliefs on our biases.

We WANTED to believe it was some white teabagger, because we don't like white teabaggers.

Isn't this grounds for tombstoning over there?

MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue May-04-10 11:40 PM
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10. Is it really biases? Or is it that the Teabaggers have given us

a reason to consider them threats?

The worst thing that we can do as citizens is pretend that they the Teabaggers or any group is incapable of committing an act like an unrepetent Timothy McVeigh? Death threats to the President and his family.

I was watching a special on the assasination of MLK and I had to turn it...because they were interviewing those that were with MLK and they said....the hate rhetoric was at a fever pitch.....

The next part I am paraphrasing...

White America was in an uproar because they didn't know why their lives and their way of life had to change.....
The blacks had no right to push for change...
MLK was a Communist
MLK was a Socialist

Sound familiar....?

Madmaddie: It's not our fault, it's their fault we believe the stereotypes, lies and biases we have about them.

KonaKane (1000+ posts) Tue May-04-10 11:35 PM
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8. Oh, stay tuned. They will try for sure.

The Hutarees were caught before they could do any real damage, thank God. But the baggers are not finished by a long shot. I predict a major violent incident, perhaps even terrorist attack, by them in the next 6 to 8 months.

As Mr. Pitt might say, "Bank it.".

ericinne (161 posts) Tue May-04-10 11:43 PM
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11. Bullshit

Hutaree!!

I wouldn't apologize, a terrorist is a terrorist.

Muslim extremist, Christian extremist tea bagger... makes no difference.

What shocks me is these 2 groups hate each other. You'd think they would get along well since both seem to think violence and murdering innocent people is the way to get your message across.

These sick freaks have more in common with each other then differences, I'm surprised they aren't exchanging bomb making ideas somewhere.

I'm sorry, I have just come to hate conservatism, not hate in the sense that I would turn one of these people away... because unlike them, I am civil... but hate in the sense that I see their naive thinking as a setback to what could be a better world for all if they weren't such hate filled people. (To a leftist: naive thinking: believing there are people out there that hate us and want to kill us, and we as a country need to show strength in the face of that Common sense, love filled thinking: If we don't bother anyone and give them whatever they want they will love us, leave us alone and we will all get along.)

The worse kind of hate filled, are the ones who think they are not being hateful, but rather patriotic, or baptized by the fukking Jesus zombie himself with a license to pass judgment. (Why, what a tolerant, love filled statement. That's what he/she calls "civil".)

So DON'T apologize. Hold your ground and keep the pressure on.

Yes, DU, the deluded leftist crowd that seriously believes that "Christian extremist tea baggers" are just as dangerous and violent as Muslim extremists. The delusions and denial are strong over there.

[Gingersnap]

What's genuinely amusing here is that about 10% or less of the "tea-baggers" might be interested in witnessing to DU but almost 100% of Islamic radicals would be interested in killing DU.

Some people are born in chains but others can't wait to receive them.

[asdf2231]

KonaKane (1000+ posts) Tue May-04-10 11:35 PM
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8. Oh, stay tuned. They will try for sure.

The Hutarees were caught before they could do any real damage, thank God. But the baggers are not finished by a long shot. I predict a major violent incident, perhaps even terrorist attack, by them in the next 6 to 8 months.

As Mr. Pitt might say, "Bank it.".

ROFLMAO!

"Bank it" after 24 business hours? Or "bank it" as in "squirrel away whatever cash you can toe up with your meager talents so you dont look like a TOTAL trust fund whore"?

I have a lot of faith in a guy whose last bout of popularity was after writing about what a total homo wuss-bag he was in his yoof and how the world is designed to traumatize sensitive poetic free souls such as his.

Hell I wasn't a bully but *I* would have jammed his priggy little head into a toilet if I'd had to put up with him in middle school.

[Dan D. Doty]

It ain't an apology when it starts with an insult.

It ain't an apology when you blame someone else for short-sighted hatred.

It an ain't an apology when you talk down to people.

It ain't an apology because you think that this gets you off the hook for acting like a bigotted asshole.

And it ain't an apology when we know you don't mean it.

[djones520]

It ain't an apology when it starts with an insult.

It ain't an apology when you blame someone else for short-sighted hatred.

It an ain't an apology when you talk down to people.

It ain't an apology because you think that this gets you off the hook for acting like a bigotted asshole.

And it ain't an apology when we know you don't mean it.

True in most cases. But this is coming from the DUmp. I'm blown away someone had the balls to even post this.

[movie buff]

"Muslim extremist, Christian extremist tea bagger... makes no difference.

What shocks me is these 2 groups hate each other. You'd think they would get along well since both seem to think violence and murdering innocent people is the way to get your message across."
Ugh.
Such a completely idiotic thing to say, and yet so many liberals, from Rosie O'Donnell to the DUmmies and countless Internet trolls, parrot it again and again yet still manage to keep a straight face.
All right lefties, let me lay it down for you (I'm dividing "Christian Extremist" and "Tea bagger" into two separate groups):
Tea Partiers are peaceful, law abiding citizens. Notice the lack of arrests made at their gatherings, especially when compared to liberal protests which can't even go off without at LEAST one of the liberal protestors being arrested for some charge usually related to vandalism or violence. We may disagree with our president and liberalism in general, and at times use fiery rhetoric in doing so, but NEVER do we encourage violence or racial bigotry. We consider liberals to be obnoxious, and their ideas potentially dangerous to our country if implemented, but at the same time, we respect the fact that it's a free country and they have the right to a contrary opinion.
Christian activists adhere even more to pacifism and obeying the law, as we are taught by Christ (You know, that figure you demonstrated such contempt for while having the gall to refer to yourself as "Civil") to show love and caring towards all people, including their enemies. Hence, again, why there are few if any arrests made at their protests, and the few arrests that do occur are usually the arrests of lefty counterprotestors whose efforts to antagonize the Christians go too far. We are taught to hate the sin, yet love the sinner. We are taught that, while what some people do is sinful, it's their choice to do it as long as it's legal, so we should at least recognize their right to exist and not use violence to try and coerce them into seeing things our way.
In contrast, Muslim extremists tend to have no problem whatsoever using violence and terrorism to achieve their ends, as long as they feel that a) They can get away with it (i.e. this Times Square bomber), or b) They'll be dead so nothing can be done to them (i.e. the underpants bomber). They do not recognize the right to exist for any who disagree with them. Their Quran teaches them that, if they encounter anyone who is not a Muslim or does anything they don't approve of, their course of action should be as follows:
1. Force them to convert to Islam.
2. (In areas under sharia law) If they won't convert, make them pay the jizya tax (Basically, protection money that non- Muslims must pay) and live as second- class citizens.
3. If they won't convert or pay the jizya tax, kill them.
Since many areas of the world are not under sharia law, Muslim extremists in those areas skip the jizya option and go straight to "Convert or die!" Unlike Christian activists and Tea Partiers, Muslim extremists believe that those who believe differently from them or do things they don't approve of have no right to life, and deserve to die.

For probably the best example of the difference between active Christians and active Muslims, let's take a look at how each side handles media blasphemy against those they worship:
A couple years ago, Rolling Stone magazine had an issue in which the cover depicted obnoxiously egotistical rapper Kanye West as Jesus on the cross, and the article on West had him at one point openly comparing himself to Christ.
Christians were outraged at this blasphemy of their Savior. How did they react:
They arranged boycotts of the magazine's sponsors, started some letter writing campaigns, and just generally expressed their displeasure in peaceful, orderly ways.
Now, in contrast, consider a few years ago, when a Danish cartoonist published cartoons that insulted Mohammad.
Muslims were outraged at this blasphemy of their prophet. How did they react:
They started riots, attacked people and businesses, and put out a death warrant against the cartoonist. Even Hamas children's TV shows had the kids wishing death on the cartoonist and swearing they would find a way to kill him, as seen here (Especially the last minute or so of the clip):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G74yu...eature=related.
We're seeing the same thing happen with Muslim extremists all over again due to Trey Parker and Matt Stone showing Mohammad in a bear suit in an episode of 'South Park.' The Times Square bomber left the explosives- laden car quite close to the NY headquarters for Viacom, the company which owns Comedy Central.

Now, liberals, is that clear enough on the difference between Tea Partiers/ Christian activists, and Muslim activists?

[Dan D. Doty]

True in most cases. But this is coming from the DUmp. I'm blown away someone had the balls to even post this.

Someone did it because they jump to conculsions ( their hate lead the way) and they think that this will get them out of the fire; like I said, real apologies don't start with an insult.

[SarasotaRepub]

malaise (1000+ posts) Wed May-05-10 07:22 AM
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30. Same here I thought it was an RW loony.

:eek:

Well I'll give credit where credit is due. If the bonglady can admit she was wrong then there is some hope. :D

[Constitutionally Speaking]

KonaKane (1000+ posts) Tue May-04-10 11:35 PM
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8. Oh, stay tuned. They will try for sure.

The Hutarees were caught before they could do any real damage, thank God. But the baggers are not finished by a long shot. I predict a major violent incident, perhaps even terrorist attack, by them in the next 6 to 8 months.

As Mr. Pitt might say, "Bank it.".

And yet the only political party that ANY of the Hutaree members belonged to was the Democrat party. Most however had no affiliation.

[3rd-try]

ericinne (161 posts) Tue May-04-10 11:43 PM
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11. Bullshit

Hutaree!!

I wouldn't apologize, a terrorist is a terrorist.

Muslim extremist, Christian extremist tea bagger... makes no difference.

What shocks me is these 2 groups hate each other. You'd think they would get along well since both seem to think violence and murdering innocent people is the way to get your message across.

These sick freaks have more in common with each other then differences, I'm surprised they aren't exchanging bomb making ideas somewhere.

I'm sorry, I have just come to hate conservatism, not hate in the sense that I would turn one of these people away... because unlike them, I am civil... but hate in the sense that I see their naive thinking as a setback to what could be a better world for all if they weren't such hate filled people.
So DON'T apologize.

Actually, it could have been pretty good satire. But seeing as how this person manages to write this, no doubt review before posting, and still totally miss the irony is fucking' hilarious!