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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Right, different sources have different perspectives, all I'm saying is we should keep in mind that no source in issues like this are TRUTH, but rather offering different narratives. Try to maintain some sense of relativity rather than falling into the fundamentalist style of thinking, it helps in more ways than are apparent.

    Wei, I have seen the "truth" put out by these organization that pander to the radical Islamists. They are the same bunch that claimed our soldiers executed innocent civilians "in cold blood" at Haditha. - a now proven lie. They are the same bunch that claimed we killed a million people in Iraq - a proven lie. They are the same bunch that claims our soldiers punched a terrorist in the gut while questioning him - another proven lie.

    This group you keep claiming is being victimized undertakes these types of operations SPECIFICALLY to create EXACTLY the type of reaction you exhibit. It is a propaganda tactic - it is a smear tactic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Guy View Post
    So your saying the entire Football Team had their way with you?:eek:
    please. It was the pokemon club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post

    This group you keep claiming is being victimized undertakes these types of operations SPECIFICALLY to create EXACTLY the type of reaction you exhibit. It is a propaganda tactic - it is a smear tactic.
    EXACTLY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Guy View Post
    So your saying the entire Football Team had their way with you?:eek:
    On a Saturday, since they "knocked it out of the park".
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    We're talking about the potential war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Israel, and your source of "TRUTH" is an Israeli news outlet?
    Those photos are from a PALESTINIAN newspaper you FOOL.

    Yes, that is the truth. Truth is one sided and it's that side. Simple, easy, not too much thinking, just the way we like it!
    Here are other links that also say the same thing.

    and here

    http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=177320 http://spectator.org/blog/2010/06/02...-allow-flotill
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100602...ctgazahamasaid


    FAIL.
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    By the way, some of that "aid" was 100 electric scooters.

    You can eat those?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Right, different sources have different perspectives, all I'm saying is we should keep in mind that no source in issues like this are TRUTH, but rather offering different narratives. Try to maintain some sense of relativity rather than falling into the fundamentalist style of thinking, it helps in more ways than are apparent.
    I guess that when you acknowledge no objective truth, it is easier to repeat lies. However, the truth is pretty obvious. The blockade runners were acting as combatants, by seeking to break a blockade against a terrorist-controlled region. The blockade itself is perfectly in accordance with international law. Arms embargoes against belligerents are perfectly legal as well. Nothing the Israelis have done here is illegal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Again, many laws have been passed since 1962
    And the one which has made enforcing blockades against belligerents was passed exactly when?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    We're talking about the potential war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Israel, and your source of "TRUTH" is an Israeli news outlet?

    Yes, that is the truth. Truth is one sided and it's that side. Simple, easy, not too much thinking, just the way we like it!
    You keep claiming that Israel has committed crimes against humanity and war crimes. Would you care to provide concrete examples, or are those truths a bit too hard for you to research? Was Israel acting illegally when it responded to over 12,000 rocket attacks from Gaza? Was Israel acting illegally when it boarded ships that had announced their intent to enter Israeli territorial waters in violation of a bilateral blockade by Israel and Egypt? Was Israel acting illegally when its commandos were ambushed by armed terrorists on the sixth ship and forced to fire in self-defense? No, no and no.

    OTOH, the blockade runners used civilians as shields in an attempt to force a blockade. The use of civilians to protect belligerents is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions. Providing aid to terrorists is a war crime. Providing military aid under the cover of humanitarian assistance is a war crime. The crimes here on on the terrorists' part.
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    Hamas didn’t want aid from the flotilla, they wanted headlines

    June 8, 2010 · 1 comment

    After last week’s dust-up between the Israeli Defense Forces and the so-called “Freedom Flotilla” (B.S. for “Terrorist Flotilla”) Israel attempted to deliver the ship’s cargo to the Gaza Strip on Wednesday. Turns out Hamas didn’t even want it.

    CNN explains:

    “Israel has attempted to deliver humanitarian aid from an international flotilla to Gaza, but Hamas — which controls the territory — has refused to accept the cargo, the Israel Defense Forces said Wednesday.

    Palestinian sources said trucks that arrived from Israel at the Rafah terminal at the Israel-Gaza border were barred from delivering the aid over protests that members of the flotilla were not delivering the materials.

    Israel had 20 trucks of aid found on the ships, such as expired medications, clothing, blankets, some medical equipment and toys.”

    The world awaits as we expect to hear either one of two statements from Hamas:

    1. “Come back when you have our bullet-proof vests and night vision rifle scopes,” or

    2. ”Super Wal-Mart just moved in so we didn’t really need that old stuff anyways.”

    The Palestinian Authority could have just spent the $4,500,000,000.00 that the international community has given them to fill 112,500,000 of Wal-Mart’s $4.00 medicine prescriptions.

    That is what they spend their money on, right? Medicine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    Those photos are from a PALESTINIAN newspaper you FOOL.
    Not only is Paltoday not an Israeli website, it's also run by Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

    You know, the terrorist group.
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    Not only is Paltoday not an Israeli website, it's also run by Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

    You know, the terrorist group.
    i know. Wei doesnt seem to get that either.
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